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LR90XS2011



Member Since: 05 Apr 2011
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
my experience is 2.4s will do quite good MPG if you keep them below 1750 rpm and 50 mph DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
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NinetyTD4



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Wales 2012 Defender 90 Other SW Keswick Green
The most efficient mods for fuel economy in a Defender are based on drivers biological brain changes and executed by a gentle foot. My 2.4 does consistent 38-40 mpg treated well. Never forget: cars have owner, Landrover have field service personnel.
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Co1



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Loire Blue
40mpg?!!! That’s amazing! I was getting 30 with a 150 map from BAS in a 2.2. I then upgraded to the 170map and I’m getting 32! Have done the air box mod as well and a straight through exhaust from dpf back.
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LR90XS2011



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
NinetyTD4 wrote:
The most efficient mods for fuel economy in a Defender are based on drivers biological brain changes and executed by a gentle foot. My 2.4 does consistent 38-40 mpg treated well.


those are figures I regularly see as well, when trying I can get over 45, I was inspired to try by Caterham DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
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NinetyTD4



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Co1 wrote:
40mpg?!!! That’s amazing! I was getting 30 with a 150 map from BAS in a 2.2. I then upgraded to the 170map and I’m getting 32! Have done the air box mod as well and a straight through exhaust from dpf back.

May I kindly suggest you take a drivers training focussing on economical driving? From experience, the about £100 spent are worth more all money you throw on technical alterations. It just needs the willingness to accept once own imperfection. Never forget: cars have owner, Landrover have field service personnel.
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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
NinetyTD4 wrote:
The most efficient mods for fuel economy in a Defender are based on drivers biological brain changes and executed by a gentle foot. My 2.4 does consistent 38-40 mpg treated well.


I'm finding this hard to believe...

The 10-year average on my 2.4 is 10.5l/100km, best figure I ever got was 9.1l/100km.

This is with the air filter mod, BAS remap, bigger IC, de-cat, roof-rack removed, etc --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
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Co1



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Loire Blue
NinetyTD4 wrote:
Co1 wrote:
40mpg?!!! That’s amazing! I was getting 30 with a 150 map from BAS in a 2.2. I then upgraded to the 170map and I’m getting 32! Have done the air box mod as well and a straight through exhaust from dpf back.

May I kindly suggest you take a drivers training focussing on economical driving? From experience, the about £100 spent are worth more all money you throw on technical alterations. It just needs the willingness to accept once own imperfection.


Have done the very same course! My daily drive is 20 miles each way, of which c.90% is cruising at 55 in 6th and carry no load other than me and the dog. I have a delicate right foot, barely brake and coast whenever the opportunity suits. I also use premium diesel if that matters? I have a suspicion I have a breather leak, will know soon enough. I’d appreciate knowing what more I can do to get over 20% improvement in economy. I’d love to know what the average for 2.2 90 owner out there is?
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LR90XS2011



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
what tyres are you running and what pressures DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

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Post #852141 26th Aug 2020 1:27pm
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Co1



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Loire Blue
Good question. BFG ATs with about 10k on them at 28psi.
Post #852142 26th Aug 2020 1:35pm
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X4CAC



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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Corris Grey
I also have a 90 XS SW 2.2 and I'd say I get roughly 28 mpg from mine... so ~300 miles to the tank... that appears to be inline with expected figures across most sites which I've just googled (autocar, honest john etc)

I'm running BFG AT's (265/75/16) not sure on the PSI... been a while since I checked to be honest.

I have an IRB stage 2 with PWR intercooler, silicon hoses & a turbo technics turbo if that helps.

I don't notice a massive change in mpg if I drive it like miss daisy or drive it like I stole it... so mostly I go with the later Thumbs Up
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Zed



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
Driving everywhere below 1750 rpm is my idea of hell but I applaud those that can. Good for the wallet and the planet. Not sure the engine will like it much though. WARNING.
This post may contain sarcasm.
Post #852175 26th Aug 2020 5:16pm
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jst



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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
my 2.4 110, 76k miles, bas remap avg from New 26.6mpg or which 21k miles towing twin axle trailer between 1 and 3.5t.

Higher tyres pressures for longer road journeys. 32 front, 50 rear, all on 235.85s bfg ats. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey
I'm in the region of 28 to 30 mpg with a steady right foot . put the foot down and it drops fast I have tried to see if I can get more but using premium fuel only makes a light difference however I feel the engine is smoother running
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NinetyTD4



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Wales 2012 Defender 90 Other SW Keswick Green
Just pulled one data set from the book keeping account of one of the GPS tracked 90 TD4 (original as delivered by factory): on average 38.2 MPG for 320k miles in almost 10 years (best tank fill 45.9, worst 26.5 with heavy towing). But, this is a 2.4 - the 2.2 are not doing that well. Never forget: cars have owner, Landrover have field service personnel.

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jst



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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
just filled today.

130, 2.4, rack and roof tent, fully loaded with camping gear and 4 people, BFG ATs 55 rear, 35 front, 70mph for 240miles of the 305 miles completed = 23.9mpg

90, 2.4, rack, 313 miles, conti tyres 35psi alround. 150miles of which at 70mph rest local lanes top speed 40mph - 27.7mpg Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
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