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AMBxx



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'Vague' is a bit of an understatement! Does it run on pixie dust?
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I didn't gain anything useful from the website.

Cost and running costs are two unanswered questions. Cheers

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jst



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I didn't gain anything useful from the website.

Cost and running costs are two unanswered questions. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
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BenB8man



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Heres a few useful bits that go a little deeper.
https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/8335/pdf/
https://online.fliphtml5.com/wxlfa/ztug/#p=1

The Uk parliment link does mention an installation cost of £460 and a 12000 mile refill of "electrolyte water".

"The EXO:1 Unit (For mainstream automotive use) currently retails, including full approved
installation, at a cost of £459.00 inclusive of VAT"

But yes, looks like a hydrogen additive (Hydroxy) to get a hotter/quicker/cleaner burn. Hotter means more NOx as far as I know, however.

I think I'm still on the 'snake oil' side of the fence.
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Co1



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It’s definitely interesting, but if it can give upwards of 20% fuel economy improvements and clean up emissions like nothing else, why isn’t it on every engine out there. The costs seem reasonable so there must be another drawback or is it brand new to the market?
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LandRoverAnorak



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It appears to be new to market.

I don't know if everybody has found the link to the brochure, which gives some more detail?

https://online.fliphtml5.com/wxlfa/ztug/#p=2

Edit: ah, just seen it in Ben's post above Rolling Eyes Darren

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LandRoverAnorak



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BenB8man wrote:
But yes, looks like a hydrogen additive (Hydroxy) to get a hotter/quicker/cleaner burn. Hotter means more NOx as far as I know, however.

I think, if you increase the overall efficiency of combustion as this claims to do, then NOx is reduced as a matter of course. Darren

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Pacha



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Interesting read!. Rgds.

Chris
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Gwily



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diduan wrote:
I know this is an old thread but I am having significant improvement of fuel consumption recently. Usually my 110SW was always at about 25-26 mpg. The last few full tanks have brought me at 30-31 mpg. I can't tell the exact reason because I did change few things since lockdown.
1. Air filter mod - great thing, I drive more in low rpms as it just has the power.
2. Switched the gas station from Shell to independent with LiquiMolly additive.


What liquiMoly additive did you add? or is it already in the indy's fuel? Defender 110 "Huberta"
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diduan



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Yes, it is in the fuel. I guess, nothing special but better than nothing. Very Happy Defender 110 SW MY2011 2.4tdci decat, no EGR
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