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redneckwilly Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Colorado Posts: 12 |
LOL, yes, it's the trucks fault! Listen, haters gonna hate. That is ok. It's unfortunate that people, who don't even own the new Defender, have to whine about it over and over. We get it. You don't like it. That is ok. Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one (and is entitled to one). 95%+ of the Automotive press and most people really like it. They like the modern design. They like the new technology. They like the rugged refinement. Peoples irrational hate of the new vehicle is noted. You can keep whining about it, but nothing will change. Wait. One thing may change, if my new 110 proves reliable over the next 6 months, I will probably buy a new 90 to replace my second car! Thank you Land Rover for a great machine! |
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19th Aug 2020 8:50pm |
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Smilesapart Member Since: 28 Sep 2013 Location: Suffolk Posts: 735 |
Sold the Puma Defender and bought a brand new Pangea Green 2020 Defender D240 S with a few factory extras!
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19th Aug 2020 9:01pm |
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Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6605 |
Just another reminder of the etiquette and attitude towards each other that I expect you all to comply with. I am watching 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW |
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19th Aug 2020 9:57pm |
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redneckwilly Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Colorado Posts: 12 |
Thank you! I will be sure not to bad mouth a specific model that I do not own or in the subforum of said car.
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19th Aug 2020 10:27pm |
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zilch Member Since: 11 Sep 2019 Location: Whitsundays & Sydney Posts: 819 |
Is this the 5 or 10 minute argument yet another pommie bar steward down under
MY20 110 P400 SE Defender MY10 3.0 RR Sport |
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19th Aug 2020 11:45pm |
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100inch Member Since: 15 May 2012 Location: Brunswick Posts: 411 |
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20th Aug 2020 2:58am |
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groaner Member Since: 20 Aug 2019 Location: Bondi Junction Posts: 20 |
This is turning into AULRO.com before it got...er... tidied up.
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20th Aug 2020 3:33am |
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Chicken Drumstick Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Near MK Posts: 736 |
So if I'm hearing you correctly. You'd only want people who like the model and are smitten with it to dare to utter a word, else in your opinion they are not welcome to even mention it?
Really, maybe you should take a closer look.
Basically you are saying, a great many people have views differing to yours. And you don't like the fact people express these views and you don't want to read or hear them? Is that the gist of it? |
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20th Aug 2020 9:41am |
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Chicken Drumstick Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Near MK Posts: 736 |
I think the irony here is, every post you have made has been a slur, attack and insult on the old model or people who like it. Or even people you think like it or people you assume don't own a new model like yourself. Yet you have the audacity to claim you don't insult You come across very childish. |
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20th Aug 2020 9:45am |
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22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3149 |
I reckon our new friend lives under a bridge...and a bearded norwegian (who has the sheer audacity to drive an "old" type Defender) will come to hunt him.
2011 110 USW 1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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20th Aug 2020 10:53am |
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AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3707 |
˄ Can you lot not read? 130's have feeling's as well you know |
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20th Aug 2020 11:27am |
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redneckwilly Member Since: 17 Aug 2020 Location: Colorado Posts: 12 |
Very poor etiquette and attitude. I am disappointed. Good day, sir. |
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20th Aug 2020 2:17pm |
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spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4662 |
The removable seat cushion and interchangability of driver/passenger seat cushion were a great idea in the old Defender and you would have thought would have been carried over to the new model. Seat cushion tears in new vehicles means the whole seat has to be changed. My work vehicle has started to show wear in the seat cushion side. When it splits the whole seat will need replacing as it is an MOT fail here. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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20th Aug 2020 4:52pm |
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Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 |
ChickenDrumstick, I have no problem with people who have actually driven it criticising the car, I agree with much of what you said in your post and in the video, some of it I don’t find with my own now getting on for 3 months old First Edition. EG I have not found any problem with a delay in acceleration when pulling out of junctions, after 3 Range Rover Sports and 2 Evoques that really did display the problem I find the pull away mapping of the engine in the new Defender works way way better than any of those cars, but then I tend to press the throttle gently, not stamping on it, as I learned that was the way to get the previous cars going without any hesitation.
One criticism I have of the new one is the lack of paddle shifters when off-road, they give way better gear control with your hands left on the steering wheel than having to take a hand of the wheel to force a sequential shift. Having run Evoques and an RRS off-road with them I really miss them on the Defender. What I object to is the same people time and time again inferring that the car is useless/hopeless/unfit as a Defender replacement because it isn’t a simple redesign of the Classic Defender, we’ve known since 2011 that it would be a more luxurious, non-utilitarian vehicle. I have owned a TDi300 90 since 2001, I still own it and it is very good at being a utility off-road vehicle, the new one is very good at different things and competent at being an off-road vehicle but for sure it isn’t by any manner of description a utility vehicle. For my needs the new one suits me to a T apart from being a bit bigger than I need. BTW when you had the problem with the engine limiting the power did you try pressing the button that disables the DSC, I suspect it was the DSC or the Rev limiter that was cutting the power. Did you try using the launch control that is there for just the situation that you found yourself in? I also find the selection of the Terrain Response programs hard to fathom out and unnecessarily convoluted, I have found, unlike previous TR equipped LR products I’ve owned, that I now don’t bother with the TR either in manual or in auto mode and just drive it in low box with HDC enabled/disabled as I need it, the setting up of TR is possibly one of the worst applications of what is otherwise a brilliant facility, what was wrong with a row of press buttons or a rotary selector? Why no Dynamic setting and why is what used to be called Highway mode now called “Comfort’ and I concur completely with your comments about once you have selected low range, there is no way for the uninitiated to see how to get back to high range too. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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20th Aug 2020 4:54pm |
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