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rossy



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The VRT loophole in Ireland has been closed !
when I picked up mine yesterday the dealer said I was the last customer on their books to avail of the 13.3 % VRT.
The Revenue apparantly contacted LR Ireland and told them to stop classifying 7 seaters as N1 although exsisting customers would be OK . They simply gave them a cut off date.
So if I was to buy mine again today I'd be paying an extra 15k and 2100 road tax. I feel relieved and smug at the same time.
CR if your out there thanks for the tip !
Post #83853 11th Aug 2011 7:09am
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pom



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Assume N1 = commerical ?

We have similar in England although its based of Window tax.

If you have rear windows its a car.

If you cover them up its a van.

Pom
Post #83854 11th Aug 2011 7:21am
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ken



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Oh Pom I love how you simplify stuff if only it were that easy Thumbs Up
Post #83855 11th Aug 2011 7:33am
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pom



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ken wrote:
Oh Pom I love how you simplify stuff if only it were that easy Thumbs Up


It is true though for car-derived-vans such as the defender. Only physical differnece is the windows. I allways carry seats in the load area of mine as well and for health and safety reasons they are bolted down to stop them moving Thumbs Up

Pom
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ken



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Rolling with laughter Thumbs Up
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MuddyMarky



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My DC has windows in the rear......... Rolling Eyes











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Post #83860 11th Aug 2011 8:52am
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ken



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Let Pom have his moment its easier that way Thumbs Up Wink
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MuddyMarky



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Post #83865 11th Aug 2011 9:32am
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K9F



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Must admit I agree with Pom's sentiments about a window tax....

From a previous thread:

K9F wrote:
For me owning a 2008 XS I am paying what tantamounts to a tax that was abolished 170 years ago but was reintroduced in the automotive world!

Big Cry The window tax was a significant social, cultural, and architectural force in the kingdoms of England, Scotland and then Great Britain during the 18th and 19th centuries. Some houses from the period can be seen to have bricked-up window-spaces (ready to be glazed at a later date), as a result of the tax.

Anyone got any mortar and bricks going spare? Laughing
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conor998



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Is this confirmed?
I was going to get one next year, maybe not now? Is it only the 7 seater? are the 5 seats still N1?
Post #84155 12th Aug 2011 11:20pm
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rossy



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I'd check with your dealer Conor. It was a grey area to begin with in the sense that its registered as a 5 seater but with a 7 seat 'option pack'. In your case the key question for the dealer would be whether it would be classified on the vehicle registration document as N1 as all the benefits follow on from this
Post #84160 13th Aug 2011 7:53am
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spudfan



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Confirmed, unfortunately. Both 110 and 90 stationwagons are now M1 and never should have been classified as N1.Just a loop hole that was legally exploited but has now been firmly closed. Pity as there would be a lot more tax revenue on ten Defender station wagons sold at the N1 rate than none sold at the M1 rate.Then again commonsense never came into these things. For anyone who benefited during the brief N1 classification period congratulations. All the best to you Rossy and do not forget your parachute wnen-if- you come down off cloud 9. Word of warning-under no circumstances let the mrs. drive it as it will immediately become hers and you will only be allowed borrow it now and then. So speaks experience... 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
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rossy



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thanks spud for the comments and for the advice you gave along the way Thumbs Up

Unfortunately the missus kind of made it her own as soon as I got back from the dealer so as usual I'll only get it when the angels need to put in the magic juice that makes it go.
Not normally impulsive but I knew this oportunity was too good to miss. Not suprised the revenue axed it so feel very lucky
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bpman



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just had the same with classifying my 110 on import. they made classed my 110 xs as M1 and Light 4x4 utility ...

i told them i wanted is changed to either "N1 / light 4x4 util" or "M1 / Estate"

... they gave me m1/estate - so not classed as commercial, which may work out better in the long run as commercials pay more for toll roads/bridges and like 200/300's if commercial are excluded from the LEZ in 2012 onwards
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CR



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the fat lady is not not singing yet !

CR
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