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J77

Member Since: 04 Nov 2019
Location: Fife
Posts: 3388

Emergency lane keep assist can be completely switched off in the collision avoidance menu, they recommend switching it off when towing or going off road. Down side is it has to be done every time the car is restarted.

21st Jun 2020 8:41am

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17352

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

What I'm reading here about the LKA sounds positively dangerous. I certainly wouldn't be buying one of these based on what's already been posted here. LKA not being disable-able, LKA and TR settings not being retained, and an already outdated screenwash system. Completely unacceptable and would drive me nuts.

21st Jun 2020 8:43am

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17352

J77 wrote:
blackwolf wrote:
You have to laugh, the first thing he does is drill a hole through the bonnet to mount his GoPro!

I didn't realise the bonnet wasn't solid under the awful plastic chequer plate stuff.

As far as I’m aware it’s metal underneath the plastic.

According to Simon in the video, all he drilled through was adhesive tape and plastic, so clearly to bonnet is not solid. It must have holes.

21st Jun 2020 8:45am

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4646

Naks wrote:
for those who don't have Instagram, the video of the Defender on Chinaman's Trail is now on YouTube as well:

Why was the driver's headlight LED lights flashing?
When I was watching this every so often I could hear my self urging the driver to give it a bit of welly. But I suppose you cannot intervene with the new technology.
I noticed a lot of wheel spinning to get a bit of traction.
My heart went out to the following vehicle which was stopping in some odd places while the Defender found it's way.
The Jeep in front seemed to have no bother but it did not look like a stock vehicle. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

21st Jun 2020 1:11pm

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
Posts: 3753

You don’t need to use the technology on any of LR’s modern cars with a transfer case, just leave it in highway mode, select low range and drive it like an older model without electronic programs- if you manually raise the suspension and manually set /deselect HDC (or leave it off even) and disable DSC, all the new cars can be driven without the TR and added electronic equipment that’s there to make life easy if you want. When I’m teaching folks new to Land Rovers that’s where I start, not by showing them what TR can do as it often confuses newcomers to off-road driving when they have the impression that you have to use TR all the time, you don’t and it can be much more fun not to use the driver aids.
The headlights and sidelights flashing issue is to do with the camera taking the video not the car

Last edited by Tim in Scotland on 21st Jun 2020 3:16pm. Edited 1 time in total

21st Jun 2020 1:25pm

J77

Member Since: 04 Nov 2019
Location: Fife
Posts: 3388

spudfan wrote:
Naks wrote:
for those who don't have Instagram, the video of the Defender on Chinaman's Trail is now on YouTube as well:

Why was the driver's headlight LED lights flashing?
When I was watching this every so often I could hear my self urging the driver to give it a bit of welly. But I suppose you cannot intervene with the new technology.
I noticed a lot of wheel spinning to get a bit of traction.
My heart went out to the following vehicle which was stopping in some odd places while the Defender found it's way.
The Jeep in front seemed to have no bother but it did not look like a stock vehicle.

It’s the way some LEDs react when on camera. I’m sure somebody on here will have the full explanation.

21st Jun 2020 1:29pm

J77

Member Since: 04 Nov 2019
Location: Fife
Posts: 3388

blackwolf wrote:
J77 wrote:
blackwolf wrote:
You have to laugh, the first thing he does is drill a hole through the bonnet to mount his GoPro!

I didn't realise the bonnet wasn't solid under the awful plastic chequer plate stuff.

As far as I’m aware it’s metal underneath the plastic.

According to Simon in the video, all he drilled through was adhesive tape and plastic, so clearly to bonnet is not solid. It must have holes.

He must have got lucky and drilled through one of the holes the trim clips into.

Click image to enlarge

Last edited by J77 on 21st Jun 2020 6:26pm. Edited 1 time in total

21st Jun 2020 1:31pm

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2637

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21st Jun 2020 1:40pm

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
Posts: 3753

J77 wrote:
Emergency lane keep assist can be completely switched off in the collision avoidance menu, they recommend switching it off when towing or going off road. Down side is it has to be done every time the car is restarted.

I’ve switched it off in the centre touch screen menu and it looks like the “switch’” stays off.............. until you stop and start

I can see this car is going to end up with a pre-trip checklist of things to disable before starting out on even a very short trip....... Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!

21st Jun 2020 4:32pm

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green

J77 wrote:
Chugga90 wrote:
The 1 million configuration fact was generated by J77 trying to get the spec he desired in the budget he wanted?

I like to think I’ve helped a bit

"One MILLION ticket requests for President @realDonaldTrump’s rally on SaturdayDouble exclamation mark"

Were JLR involved in counting requests for this as well?

21st Jun 2020 7:51pm

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
Posts: 3753

But JLR don’t make you sign a disclaimer that you won’t sue them if you get the virus in a showroom! Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!

21st Jun 2020 10:12pm

zilch

Member Since: 11 Sep 2019
Location: Whitsundays & Sydney
Posts: 815

Tim in Scotland wrote:
You don’t need to use the technology on any of LR’s modern cars with a transfer case, just leave it in highway mode, select low range and drive it like an older model without electronic programs- if you manually raise the suspension and manually set /deselect HDC (or leave it off even) and disable DSC, all the new cars can be driven without the TR and added electronic equipment

a very good point Tim

yet another pommie bar steward down under

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21st Jun 2020 11:00pm

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
Posts: 3753

spudfan wrote:
The Jeep in front seemed to have no bother but it did not look like a stock vehicle.

The “Jeep” in front was a NAS soft top Land Rover 90 - you see it side /3/4 on right at the end.......... maybe that’s why it doesn’t look like a stock Jeep and did well!.............. I wasn’t sure what the white with black bonnet one that was following him, Disco1 or P38A. On other modern Land Rovers you also get an element of wheelspin while the computer works out which wheel/S to brake/ send drive to , I think it would work way faster that the human brain to detect any wheelspin with more throttle Used by a human too. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!

Last edited by Tim in Scotland on 22nd Jun 2020 5:27am. Edited 5 times in total

22nd Jun 2020 4:58am

Supacat

Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

J77 wrote:
blackwolf wrote:
J77 wrote:
blackwolf wrote:
You have to laugh, the first thing he does is drill a hole through the bonnet to mount his GoPro!

I didn't realise the bonnet wasn't solid under the awful plastic chequer plate stuff.

As far as I’m aware it’s metal underneath the plastic.

According to Simon in the video, all he drilled through was adhesive tape and plastic, so clearly to bonnet is not solid. It must have holes.

He must have got lucky and drilled through one of the holes the trim clips into.

Click image to enlarge

There appears to be two holes in the outer skin underneath where the plastic trim lines up, and two holes in the inner skin:

Click image to enlarge

22nd Jun 2020 5:15am

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
Posts: 3753

zilch wrote:
Tim in Scotland wrote:
You don’t need to use the technology on any of LR’s modern cars with a transfer case, just leave it in highway mode, select low range and drive it like an older model without electronic programs- if you manually raise the suspension and manually set /deselect HDC (or leave it off even) and disable DSC, all the new cars can be driven without the TR and added electronic equipment

a very good point Tim

Here is Matt of Car Wow on YouTube driving a110 without using the TR at all - fast forward to 5m 01sec

Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!

22nd Jun 2020 6:56am

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