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DrRob



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J77 wrote:
Looks like it’s not worth paying the £2k extra for the air suspension on my 90.

Go coils Thumbs Up
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J77



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Bring it back to Solihull. let us Brummies build with it pride !!!



They’re maybe built with pride but the quality ain’t any better Laughing

The only decent built LR I’ve owned came out of Halewood. Well 3 in fact, my Freelander 2s.
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J77



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DrRob wrote:
J77 wrote:
Looks like it’s not worth paying the £2k extra for the air suspension on my 90.

Go coils Thumbs Up


Yeah it’s coils I’m favouring.

Nobody has tried one on coils but LR say

Coil suspension

A fully independent coil sprung suspension system that combines double wishbones at the front with an advanced multi-link rear suspension design to create an agile and responsive chassis. Ride comfort and stability when heavily laden are optimised through the use of secondary spring aids incorporated within the rear suspension.
Post #837652 16th Jun 2020 8:41pm
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AndrewS



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Tim in Scotland wrote:
Interesting tyre treads that they have on it for a test drive - not exactly anything OEM I would suggest!
Maybe I should relocate my Hi-lift from the 90 to the new one just in case! They must have had a jolly comprehensive toolkit with them too to do the engineering on the jack.


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Supacat



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lohr500 wrote:
diduan wrote:
I always knew that the hi-lift is an useful tool😀

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(Image taken from Russian test drive)


Any info on how the suspension got broken? They made a big deal in the pre-launch videos about driving into kerb stones at speed. How long before the recall to fit some axle strengthening brackets like the bodge on the last one? Big Cry


Is that actually at the Namibian press launch event?

Might have to get Bellingcat on the case to geolocate the photo, but the video posted was that event?
Post #837707 17th Jun 2020 6:13am
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J77



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The photo looks like it’s from a Namibian press car.
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PaulMark



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There was some chat about it back when it happened here: https://www.aulro.com/afvb/l663-defender/2...43ae55901a
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Supacat



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Thanks.

So the Russian photo is actually cropped from this one (to remove the credit?):


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https://www.caradvice.com.au/834196/2020-l...nd-review/

And a strange comment in the same article as the above photo featured:

"Say what you want about independent suspension in off-roaders, but not having two big beam axles getting whacked on rocks off-road is nice, and stops you from sweating over line choice so much."

And something else I didn't know:

"While the centre and rear differentials aren’t true locking units"

Other photos of the repair from Caradvice:


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Post #837715 17th Jun 2020 7:02am
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LandRoverAnorak



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Taken from the comments below that article:

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Sam Purcell CarAdvice team
A bit of context for you on that photo: one of the journos on our loop had the unfortunate experience of hitting a big rock at high speed while doing a driving piece to camera. Steel front wheel buckled (got hammered back to useable) and after bouncing, the car came down on the rock with the rear control arm and snapped it.
In the picture you can see the repair job: the guys used a grinder to cut a length from a hi-lift jack, clearanced the holes a little, and bolted it onto between wheel and chassis. This car continued on for the next few days without any problems. And now they have a world first mid-lift jack.

Chirps
Ha! There you go. Looks like the arm did it’s job protecting the shock then. That’s quite a tidy patch job too. Trackdaze picked it.

Sam Purcell CarAdvice team
Amazing repair job, all done in a dry creek bed with basic tools, a grinder and some imagination. The car threw it's fair share of warning lights, but I was impressed it didn't go into some kind of limp mode or refuse to start. It kept going hard off-road, despite about 20 degrees of toe-out
 Darren

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Post #837726 17th Jun 2020 7:49am
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Naks



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adafish wrote:
Bring it back to Solihull. let us Brummies build with it pride !!!


lol, what a joke.

My Puma arrived with a skew front axle, a loose anti-sway bar, the whole upper tub only bolted on with 1 out of 5 bolts IIRC (only discovered this a couple of years later).

It is 10 years old and to this day I'm STILL finding manufacturing quality issues.

Rolling with laughter --
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Post #837736 17th Jun 2020 9:13am
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markb110



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Supacat wrote:
lohr500 wrote:
diduan wrote:
I always knew that the hi-lift is an useful tool😀

Click image to enlarge
(Image taken from Russian test drive)


Any info on how the suspension got broken? They made a big deal in the pre-launch videos about driving into kerb stones at speed. How long before the recall to fit some axle strengthening brackets like the bodge on the last one? Big Cry


Is that actually at the Namibian press launch event?

Might have to get Bellingcat on the case to geolocate the photo, but the video posted was that event?


Those new fangled Over The Updates are pretty amazing...... Whistle
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spudfan



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This the most positive thing I have seen about the new beast yet....repairs in the field. Now if were JLR I would embrace this and use it to my advantage. Something on the lines of the following.
"No matter how tough your vehicle, accidents will happen. However, like it's predecessor the New Defender can be repaired in the field with the minimum of fuss and tools. Reassuring to know. Land Rover.. Above and Beyond".
Well that is what I'd do. Now not everyone carries and angle grinder or has the knowhow to accomplish this repair, but hey JLR do not have to mention that. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
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spudfan



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Naks wrote:
adafish wrote:
Bring it back to Solihull. let us Brummies build with it pride !!!


lol, what a joke.

My Puma arrived with a skew front axle, a loose anti-sway bar, the whole upper tub only bolted on with 1 out of 5 bolts IIRC (only discovered this a couple of years later).

It is 10 years old and to this day I'm STILL finding manufacturing quality issues.

Rolling with laughter

And not one red or amber dash light on... Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
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Supacat



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markb110 wrote:
Supacat wrote:
lohr500 wrote:
diduan wrote:
I always knew that the hi-lift is an useful tool😀

Click image to enlarge
(Image taken from Russian test drive)


Any info on how the suspension got broken? They made a big deal in the pre-launch videos about driving into kerb stones at speed. How long before the recall to fit some axle strengthening brackets like the bodge on the last one? Big Cry


Is that actually at the Namibian press launch event?

Might have to get Bellingcat on the case to geolocate the photo, but the video posted was that event?


Those new fangled Over The Updates are pretty amazing...... Whistle


Scratch that optional air compressor ~ when will they offer a 3D printer?
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J77



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Chinaman’s trail Colorado. This ones running a 2” lift kit



I believe it’s this one



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