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Slideywindows



Member Since: 09 Sep 2016
Location: North Essex
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I really did try to watch that video, but after a minute and a half I was falling asleep.

If the new vehicle did anything we weren't doing with an old 80" trials vehicle in the 1970's, please direct me to that point in the vid, and I'll take a look.


I have to confess that I am still confused as to what exact niche this vehicle is trying to fill.

The target market seems to be Discovery-owning tarmac drivers, yet the publicity seems to be about its "rugged offroading" capabilities.

Surely JLR marketing should be showing videos of a "cool "guy driving smoothly and comfortably up a motorway, whilst playing with the on-board toys and infotainment system?

Meanwhile his wife is reversing impeccably up the front drive, using the all round cameras to avoid the Mercedes parked next to it, whilst visibly jealous neighbours are looking on admiringly?


I suspect that driving over a series of dirt mounds is not what most potential buyers will be thinking of.

Or maybe it's just me.... Confused
Post #811689 23rd Jan 2020 8:54pm
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nidge n



Member Since: 04 Feb 2012
Location: Cheshire
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Well, thats 13 minutes of my life I won't get back.

Im sure that the new Defender is going to be capable as are most Land Rovers, but that doesn't mean that the new Defender is a direct replacement for the old. Our defenders are practical, unfussy, driven by people who own the land and work the land. Cricky, there was even a picture of Prince William in a green Defender at Sandringham last week. And for me, thats the issue. LR have probably made the new Defender capable but it doesn't retain the spirit. Sadly, now only purchased by those who own the land. Would i consider buying one? yes potentially. Would it be a replacement for my two Defenders. No, that simply wouldn't happen. I wish LR well with it, but alas, i am not their target market. I am now looking at other potential cars and manufacturers. Underwhelming. Don't think I'll bother, put the money back under the mattress.
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dailysleaze



Member Since: 23 May 2013
Location: United Kingdom
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United Kingdom 
ericvv wrote:



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I really dislike the rear end, and I've just figured out it's because it looks identical to when you know a toddler's filled their nappy Laughing
Post #811727 23rd Jan 2020 11:03pm
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Ads90



Member Since: 16 Jun 2008
Location: Cots-on-the-Wolds
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Keswick Green
Slideywindows wrote:
If the new vehicle did anything we weren't doing with an old 80" trials vehicle in the 1970's, please direct me to that point in the vid, and I'll take a look.

To be fair (& I'm no advocate for the new one), it's probably just as capable off road as a 1970s, whilst doing everything else better.

(Looks, character, bolt-onability, mend-with-a-hammerability excluded, but most new car buyers don't give a Censored about those last two.)
Post #811780 24th Jan 2020 3:51pm
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ericvv



Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
[quote="wyvern"]
ericvv wrote:
This afternoon at our local dealer. Nice car overall, but inside and outside too many glossy plastic parts. First customer deliveries here will be in March. They also said that even if this one here still is marked as a prototype vehicle, virtually nothing will change anymore.
Only thing I did with my dealer while I was there today was make an appointment for a complete fluids change and grease job for the SVX in the next few weeks. Whistle
Eric



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Eric .......Was the new defender delivered to the dealer in the trailer being towed by the old defender ??

Whistle


Yep, towed by that nice grey Adventure edition... Thumbs Up You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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Post #811783 24th Jan 2020 4:18pm
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Fat Cog



Member Since: 19 Mar 2012
Location: Oxfordshire & Devon
Posts: 502
United Kingdom 2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey
[quote="nidge n"]Well, thats 13 minutes of my life I won't get back.

Laughing Laughing Laughing Since 1973...S1, Air Portable's, Defender's, but only my Wolf TUL HS GS remains
Post #811829 24th Jan 2020 10:46pm
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Romadog



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Well this vid was hidden well
Post #812960 31st Jan 2020 9:03pm
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boxoftricks



Member Since: 06 Feb 2019
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver
Got to be said it’s fast growing on me
Post #812969 31st Jan 2020 9:25pm
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mikelike



Member Since: 31 Aug 2011
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Wow a commercial for urban warriors Embarassed
Post #813000 1st Feb 2020 5:26am
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
Good find ~ treatment of the interior space looks very similar to D5 commercial:


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Post #813007 1st Feb 2020 6:27am
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Inigo



Member Since: 13 Nov 2011
Location: Kent
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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey
I'm waiting for an equivalent of my USW, so 5 seats and a load space, then I'd buy one.
Post #813037 1st Feb 2020 10:07am
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Morepower



Member Since: 08 Jan 2013
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New Zealand 
Its is a D5 commercial... just with different plastics attached It doesn't matter how bad it is, It can always get worse...

2013 Bowler 110 (Sold)
2016 Bowler 90 Rally Spec (Sold)
Post #813056 1st Feb 2020 12:24pm
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
A very small and very expensive van!
Post #813076 1st Feb 2020 2:00pm
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familymad



Member Since: 13 Dec 2011
Location: Bucks
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 2016 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black
Rolling with laughter 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI
Post #813114 1st Feb 2020 6:09pm
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lohr500



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
I hope those air cylinders are bolted down, otherwise it could get quite exciting if there is an emergency stop!!

By the way, are they fitted to all the new Defenders as a back up in case the air suspension compressor packs up?
I only ask because our early MMYY Disco 3 went through 3 compressors whilst under warranty Big Cry
Post #813119 1st Feb 2020 6:31pm
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