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SteveT247

Member Since: 21 Feb 2011
Location: Central
Posts: 491

2002 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Bonatti Grey

Tim, its still unlikely you'll be able to fit any tyres significantly larger than standard as the back face of the tyre is extremely close to the vehicle, neither will you be able to alter the suspension to gain much in terms of articulation.

20th Nov 2019 12:12pm

King Luis

Member Since: 23 Oct 2019
Location: Toronto
Posts: 42

so upping tire size looks to be an issue. i'm sure in a year or so there will be kits to swap out the air suspension for a full spring/shock lift unit. maybe then a 33" will fit. maybe fender liner will need to be modified.

and regarding the longevity, if the new defender was taken care of and ran the amount of mileage these well kept series II LR's have and even older defenders have, then the new one will last just as long. i see some members posting 100k on their 2000 defenders boasting the condition they are in mean while they've replaced tons of parts and have had the body worked on. i'm sure the plastics on the new one can easily handle 100k over 20 years.

20th Nov 2019 5:11pm

SteveT247

Member Since: 21 Feb 2011
Location: Central
Posts: 491

Maybe, maybe not, you certainly won't be sticking anything larger than that on. Like I said initially, it's not for me, not when I could buy a top of the range Rubicon unlimited that's a serious bit of kit straight off the shelf, that I can alter/modify, is a far better looking vehicle (in my opinion), for the same price as the lowest spec 110. You pays your money etc, etc, all boils down to what you want to use it for.

20th Nov 2019 5:34pm

RobKeay

Member Since: 19 Jul 2009
Location: Stafford
Posts: 1585

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey

Quote:
when you say outside feels plastic, is it the look? or actual feel of it? or just too much of the matte black plastic?
i thought the rear tow bar is cool. volvo has a similar one. is this different? or just not your style?
do you know if all the steering wheels are wrapped in the same material? the LR site (Canada) sort of describes the steering wheel different in the S and SE models. "Standard leather steering wheel" vs "Leather steering wheel"

You can push bits of it in. But this maybe because it’s pre production. I understand it has to be pedestrian friendly. So no metal bumpers etc.

It’s an extremely comfortable steering wheel but have no idea what spec it was. Not one Landrover employee spoke to me or asked what I thought.

The electric towbar is an expensive option and to me seems pointless. I’d rather have a permanent one with a bash plate behind. If you took a trailer off with the ram not fully out, I feel it would puncher the rear bumper.

I might still be interested in the 90 but have a feeling that will be very small internally. The 110 isn’t massive inside there isn’t a great amount of space. This maybe an issue for some more than me at 5ft7.

21st Nov 2019 5:43pm

zilch

Member Since: 11 Sep 2019
Location: Whitsundays & Sydney
Posts: 820

the electric tow bar is not approved in 🇦🇺, so we get the standard tow pack
With tow hitch receiver. One concern I have is whether my current Thule
Bike carrier upper frame will clear the spare wheel or do ii need to get the
tow ball attachment bar extended to provide clearance . I was wondering if
There are a number of tow attachments out there that may need to be modded
due to their height .. first world problem

yet another pommie bar steward down under

MY20 110 P400 SE Defender
MY10 3.0 RR Sport

21st Nov 2019 11:10pm

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2645

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

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2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged

Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ

28th Nov 2019 3:08pm

J77

Member Since: 04 Nov 2019
Location: Fife
Posts: 3411

Up at the dealers this evening to view it.

I’m pretty pleased with it, this one looked better finished and felt solid. Quite liked the colour, Pangea Green, but still not a fan of those wheels though.

Click image to enlarge

29th Nov 2019 7:41pm

zilch

Member Since: 11 Sep 2019
Location: Whitsundays & Sydney
Posts: 820

SteveT247 wrote:
could buy a top of the range Rubicon unlimited that's a serious bit of kit straight off the shelf, that I can alter/modify, is a far better looking vehicle (in my opinion), .

find out if they suffer from any electrical issues, my sons Grand Cherokee had significant issues where it
just cut out, and its a known fault, and a friends 5 door wrangler had an issue where it just would not restart
after any length of journey.. Jeep knew about the issues but always seem to give a no fault found answer

yet another pommie bar steward down under

MY20 110 P400 SE Defender
MY10 3.0 RR Sport

29th Nov 2019 10:53pm

familymad

Member Since: 13 Dec 2011
Location: Bucks
Posts: 3481

2016 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black

The plastic in the back of the boot and covering the 6/7 seats is awful. Will look battered by the end of the first month. 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI

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30th Nov 2019 7:24am

SteveT247

Member Since: 21 Feb 2011
Location: Central
Posts: 491

I know three lads with jeeps zilch, none of them have had any reliability problems, electrical or otherwise.

30th Nov 2019 7:26am

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
Posts: 3753

familymad wrote:
The plastic in the back of the boot and covering the 6/7 seats is awful. Will look battened by the end of the first month.

That’s so that your local friendly dealership can sell you a full length rubber mat at £500 a pop to protect the fake checker plate....... there’s method in their madness. I would be paying a visit to the local carpet warehouse for a £20 piece of checker plate pattern Lino offcut instead....... Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!

30th Nov 2019 7:46am

Fatboy Slim

Member Since: 04 Feb 2008
Location: Bridgend
Posts: 1006

chalky wrote:
This reminds me of when the DISCO 3 came out, it was lambasted from pre production, early production and into ownership, when serious owners who used these fragile D3’s used them as they were intended without the Air suspension collapsing, the TDV6 didn’t implode, the rear brake light didn’t fall off the lid, the boot door lifted up and not out...... the wheels were too big, tyres too wide, interior too flimsy,

When the nay sayers actually listened to what the previous D1, D2 and now the new D3 owners were saying and they used one themselves the negativity Soon stopped and Those who would never step out of an older Disco for these new fangled toys which were gimmicks and soon to be destined for the scrap yard actually worked they sold like hot cakes and many an enthusiast has since been forged,

Given the option of driving round in a Defender with no room versus one with comfort built in, I’m taking the comfort one every time.........

I've suffered a few D3s. The negativity was correct

30th Nov 2019 3:45pm

J77

Member Since: 04 Nov 2019
Location: Fife
Posts: 3411

familymad wrote:
The plastic in the back of the boot and covering the 6/7 seats is awful. Will look battened by the end of the first month.

Maybe looks bad but feels very robust.

I was more impressed with the quality of this one than the one at the Halewood event.

30th Nov 2019 5:13pm

familymad

Member Since: 13 Dec 2011
Location: Bucks
Posts: 3481

I've suffered a few D3s. The negativity was correct[/quote]

I’ve had the same with a couple of D4’s

1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI

30th Nov 2019 7:28pm

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
Posts: 3753

The reaction of old Defender, D1-D3 and old Range Rover owners when I took my RRS and L322’s on quite challenging offroad days was also totally negative........... until they rode in and saw what they could do in great comfort and with so much torque then they soon shut up and we’re more than a bit surprised. That I could do it using TR on factory issued tyres amazed them more! I don’t doubt that the new Defender will surpass all JLR products that have gone before it. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!

1st Dec 2019 1:58am

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