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Setok



Member Since: 16 Jan 2009
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 422

Finland 
I agree the latest batch of MINIs have evolved quite far from what I would consider a Mini. Even the lady is not a fan of the newest editions (too big, not fun). Having said that, the original new MINI in my eyes, and many others, immediately evoked memories of the old classic and while the price was higher, it was still a common person's vehicle.

In that category I think the Fiat 500 has also done a great job.
Post #798292 15th Oct 2019 1:24pm
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lohr500



Member Since: 14 Sep 2014
Location: Skipton
Posts: 1316

United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
NoDo$h wrote:
Make sure you check the towing capacity Whistle

2200kg braked for the diesel, 2000kg braked for the petrol

https://www.jeep.co.uk/4x4/towing-csv

And the two-door can only tow 1500kg


Agree, the towing capacity isn't spectacular. The link in your post though must be for the old models with the 2.8 diesel and 3.6 V6 petrol. Looks like Jeep haven't updated the UK website!

From the brochure, the 4 door is now rated at 2495Kg. Still nowhere near the new Defender, but more than enough for my needs.
Post #798305 15th Oct 2019 3:14pm
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Tim in Scotland



Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
Posts: 3753

 
Jeep UK website shows only 2.0ltr petrol and diesels - Rubicon appears to be auto only
Try this link https://www.jeep.co.uk/wrangler-jl Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #798308 15th Oct 2019 3:29pm
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NoDo$h



Member Since: 18 Aug 2007
Location: Buried in deer guts in Dorset
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England 
Thumbs Up good spot there.

Add "capability" at the end and it does indeed show the new tow weights/drivetrains

https://www.jeep.co.uk/wrangler-jl/capability 

54 Freelander modded for mud
2008 D3 SE
2010 90 XS SW
1978 88 Series 3 undergoing surgery with a new owner
2007 90 County Truck Cab - gone
2006 D3 SE - gone
2004 Freelander Sport - gay
1999 Disco V8 ES rotted to bits
Post #798309 15th Oct 2019 3:38pm
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Supacat



Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 11018

United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
I think the Gladiator variant tows more, and if this comes off then there's another version in the mix: The Gladiator XMT (Extreme Military-Grade Truck)


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https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2947290...tary-army/
Post #798330 15th Oct 2019 6:00pm
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
The Gladiator can tow 7650 lbs (about 3.5 tons by my reckoning) according to the US website.
Post #798334 15th Oct 2019 6:41pm
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Tim in Scotland



Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
Posts: 3753

 
Scroll down this Jeep website page - https://www.jeep.co.uk/wrangler-jl/interior
JLR would never show anyone hosing out the interior of the New Defender on the website... might spoil with Acorn leather Rolling with laughter
https://www.jeep.co.uk/wrangler-jl/interior Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #798335 15th Oct 2019 6:46pm
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markb110



Member Since: 22 May 2010
Location: Guildford
Posts: 2634

England 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Epsom Green


Think that you will wipe out all 85 ECU's doing this with a New Defender... Shocked
Post #798338 15th Oct 2019 7:05pm
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spudfan



Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4655

Ireland 
JLR design team..all qualifications, no common sense. Mr. Green 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #798346 15th Oct 2019 7:42pm
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cozz



Member Since: 15 May 2013
Location: nottingham
Posts: 537

Yes mine is a rubicon which is designed to be a capable 4x4 out of the box

It came with 32” bf muds
Within a week I had it booked in at Jeepey for new bumper, 2” lift, new wheels , 35” tyres and side bars

Also had all rear tinted windows double tinted so van like. Rear seats fold fla

They are all auto and I chose the petrol which is 280 bhp

Mind you the rubicon is prob same money as a defender. Also NOT vat qualifying which is rubbish. Seeing as a 110 utility is
Post #798370 15th Oct 2019 9:55pm
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familymad



Member Since: 13 Dec 2011
Location: Bucks
Posts: 3481

 2016 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black
Some of their stuff is nice https://jeepey.com/product/jeep-wrangler-rubicon-36-v6-2016/ 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI
1995 90 300TDI
Post #798383 16th Oct 2019 7:42am
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Eduardo



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Región Metropolitana
Posts: 2110

Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
I would love to see a SW Gladiator with a diesel engine.
Will be a quite good replacement of the SW Defender 110 for overlanding. Eduardo

MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64'
MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo"

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Post #798444 16th Oct 2019 9:00pm
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Def_90



Member Since: 10 Nov 2013
Location: W-Flanders
Posts: 25

Belgium 
I just watched some old camel trophy films with defender and disco. Although JLR claims to have build the toughest defender to date, I don't see a new defender (or any recent not product for that matter) survive those conditions for a single day. To me the camel trophy's are a good part of the legend (and dreams) of land rover. Now all that's left are the memories. I haven't been without (at least 1) LR product for over more than 30 years. But as I see it now, there might not be a new one. I' m going to hold my 110DCPU Puma forces long as I can, and hope to restore my 1984 90 (converted some 20 years ago to a 4.6V8) to it's former glorie.
I'm still reluctant to convert to keep. I really hope the One is Greandier will be a true replacement for the defender (as the new JLR defender - at least for me - is a total no go. My current defender is used for work (tools, cement, wood, ... in the back), green laning and travelling (hope to do more of the last in the future
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Post #798566 17th Oct 2019 7:59pm
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RobKeay



Member Since: 19 Jul 2009
Location: Stafford
Posts: 1579

United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey


Nice little clip for jeep owners..
Post #798859 20th Oct 2019 6:31pm
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Ecco



Member Since: 31 Oct 2015
Location: Kuala Lumpur
Posts: 280

Malaysia 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 DCPU Galway Green
..i would like to see JLR try something like this with new defender..i bet, that electronic infested thing will die in no time..

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