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| Ecco Member Since: 31 Oct 2015 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 280   
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...well..Series3 was not designed either, to have piece of leather jacket as a head gasket, but it worked in the middle of nowhere and brought crew to their destination safe..so, since current incarnation is tagged as a toughest, im simply wondering how it will handle rough situation where you simply cant override what ECU think is wrong, even vehicle may be mechanically okay to keep going but its put down for good because of software..you know...Boeing 737 Max thing like..
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21st Oct 2019 9:49am |
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| Ads90 Member Since: 16 Jun 2008 Location: Cots-on-the-Wolds Posts: 812  
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What new car today can you buy that doesn't rely on an ECU?
I'm no fan of the new Defender, but you can't seriously have expected it to have electronics you could somehow bypass when flooded etc.? If that's what you want/need you can stick with a Series, because even the Grenadier or Bollinger will rely on ECUs of some sort. |
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21st Oct 2019 11:08am |
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| OsloBlue Member Since: 14 Jul 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 824 
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pressure differential, have the interior air pressure of the vehicle higher than the outside and that waterproofs it. Like G wagen I'm on IG: https://www.instagram.com/osloblue42/ Current: TD5 '110 "Lucinda" Thread here: https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic62562.html  |
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21st Oct 2019 1:01pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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Got an invite to a closed (invite only) viewing at my nearest dealership from LR in my email last night. Event days are 19th and 20th November. Check your spam filters guys, if you live in Scotland or Northern England and you registered with JLR then you might also have an invite.
I was in the local dealership today to say unfortunately I won’t appear on their list from JLR as I’ll be in the USA working. Was there any news yet? The sale an mentioned no demo cars until Easter at the earliest, 90 will go on the configurator before Christmas, confirmed that only 110SE’s will be built first and no deliveries until “possibly” next May............ Then I asked about the 90 PHEV............ no news, maybe won’t be available as a 90! I know other LR vehicles aren’t much interest here but the Evoque and DiscoSport PHEV’s will be available next month - iCE side will be a 1.5ltr 3 cylinder just like I gave in my Countryman - so could that also be the BMW engine? Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! Last edited by Tim in Scotland on 22nd Oct 2019 3:58pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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22nd Oct 2019 2:27pm |
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| RDR Member Since: 27 Apr 2018 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 595
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Anyone Going to the Sherwood Pines Defender event tomorrow? 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE
RR MY23 HSE PHEV D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold D4 MY12 HSE - Gone D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten |
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22nd Oct 2019 3:52pm |
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| DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1439 
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I believe the 1.5 engine in the Evoque and DS PHEV will be 3/4 of the ingenium 4 cylinder or half of the 3.0litre I6, depending on how you look at it. It was always intended to be a modular engine, adding or deleting cylinders to change the capacity. Alas, we're unlikely to see a 2.5 litre TD5 again. |
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22nd Oct 2019 5:38pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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Not so judging by these photos: Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge |
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22nd Oct 2019 5:42pm |
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| familymad Member Since: 13 Dec 2011 Location: Bucks Posts: 3481 
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Another two friends just canx their deposits on seeing the real thing. I’m getting the same answers. Engine line up, interior plastics and interior space. 1951 80" S1 2.0
1995 110 300TDI 1995 90 300TDI |
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22nd Oct 2019 8:56pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2646  
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Awesome defender testing video
www.vimeopro.com/user98861477/defender-7-en -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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23rd Oct 2019 1:55pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Interesting video but can't help thinking a trip out to Moab, is just a jolly for the Engineers; and is completely meaningless when (picking up from another thread) the centre diff is swapped out for an inferior one down the line.
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23rd Oct 2019 2:28pm |
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| King Luis Member Since: 23 Oct 2019 Location: Toronto Posts: 42 
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i read that the electronics on the new defender are all certified for ip67. meaning they can handle being submerged in 1 metre of water for 30mins iirc. so i wouldn't worry about water causing issues with the electronics. |
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23rd Oct 2019 5:43pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Have you ever owned a Defender? I can't imagine that sentence coming out of any owner's mouth.  |
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24th Oct 2019 2:19pm |
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| Mash Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: Guernsey Posts: 1674  
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On the ECU side of things, I have worked on a fair few vehicles with low mounted ECUs that have been driven in depths exceeding their location and on the whole you get no problems, however by the time you remove and recouple the various ecus water ingress and corroded pins will be a nightmare. The failure is normally the pins and on a vehicle with this many cables and ECUs I can imagine diagnosis and repair will be tedious and expensive. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html 110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html 52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html D3 Hse - Fiona Capri 2l S - Anna Think I might have a problem............ |
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24th Oct 2019 3:06pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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Just arrived in my email - an email from JLR PR dept. with pictures of 90 and 110 Commercial in metallic blue with a white roof, blurb says it’s coming to retailers late in 2020....... must say it does look good as a commercial. Both available only as 2 or 3cseats with third seat being the centre jump seat. The 110 looks like it still has functioning rear side doors but it would make a fantastic Utility (maybe one for the specialist converters to do as an aftermarket option?)
Look here http://links.email.landrover.co.uk/servlet...1&rt=0 Or this is it too as a photo Click image to enlarge Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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24th Oct 2019 3:55pm |
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