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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3310   
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Interesting. Especially as you seem to be one of the few on here who has actually seen it. If judging purely on looks, in what order would you place your 3 and the new one? |
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13th Sep 2019 7:28pm |
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| familymad Member Since: 13 Dec 2011 Location: Bucks Posts: 3481  
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 Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Nearly identical 1951 80" S1 2.0 1995 110 300TDI 1995 90 300TDI |
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13th Sep 2019 7:36pm |
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| Buzzsaw Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: Swindon Posts: 61 
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That's a great comparison, thank you. For those saying the new one has no resemblance/DNA from the original...sorry I don't agree
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13th Sep 2019 7:45pm |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3150 
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That is entirely subjective though. I dont think anyone said it has no resemblance or DNA (whatever that even means regarding a car) but I don't think it has much, and certainly doesn't have enough. This should have been the model for 5 years from now. The one for now should have been closer to the old to lessen the shock of the change and maybe get enthusiasts on board with it. Aside from the nose and the rear lighting it actually looks quite nice, especially the 90, but I don't feel it strongly resembles a Defender.
I wonder how long before some clever aftermarket firm offer a retro style front end and rear lighting conversion for it.  2011 110 USW
1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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13th Sep 2019 8:17pm |
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| pcoote Member Since: 01 Aug 2010 Location: Oxford Posts: 83 
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New Defender is playing mind games with me
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13th Sep 2019 8:34pm |
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| ids Member Since: 06 Jun 2019 Location: Forest of Dean Posts: 35
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Don't forget that market forces, EU and Worldwide safetly legislation have forced pedestrian friendly vehicle surfaces. So everyone can lament the 'good old days' but its time to move on. Sure anyone that been hit by a car will probably agree. I had aftermarket steel bumpers on my SIIA and D1 so dont get me wrong but as im 90% on road there is no excuse not to have plastic 'soft' bumpers IMHO |
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13th Sep 2019 8:42pm |
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| Setok Member Since: 16 Jan 2009 Location: Helsinki Posts: 422 
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For me the biggest issue aesthetically is the front, which most definitely sings more Disco than Defender. That’s also a bit strange as with quite small tweaks the look would have been so much more spot on. Additionally, the fake jewellery is bothersome. As someone said, that kind of stuff is not what Defenders are about. Their appeal has always been honesty. A lot could be forgiven if the car’s soul was right: a sturdy, simple, fixable platform that can go anywhere and do anything required of it. A platform where every dent tells a story (rather than of depreciation). That’s why I always wanted a Defender. This new car does not scratch that itch. Last edited by Setok on 14th Sep 2019 6:32am. Edited 1 time in total |
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13th Sep 2019 9:56pm |
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| Ecco Member Since: 31 Oct 2015 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 280  
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..this would be something to consider instead of what has been presented..
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14th Sep 2019 2:53am |
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| ids Member Since: 06 Jun 2019 Location: Forest of Dean Posts: 35
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https://jalopnik.com/what-i-found-when-i-c...1838080009
Good article about the underneath....... Some valid points esp about diff protection |
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14th Sep 2019 5:27am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5829  
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Or..... Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge  Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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14th Sep 2019 5:31am |
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| GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10383
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I beleive. |
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14th Sep 2019 5:40am |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3310
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Nailed it. |
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14th Sep 2019 6:33am |
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| Setok Member Since: 16 Jan 2009 Location: Helsinki Posts: 422
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This is much, much better. So much better it makes one weep. |
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14th Sep 2019 6:39am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5829
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^^^ Not bad. The video version is far better than the New McGovern Design, but still not quite right. Maybe bacuse it reminds me too much of the RR Cullinan. What his design (and that of the Cullinan) does go to prove, is that slab fronted vehicles can still meet all necessary pedestrian safety tests as set by the EU and US. So, the idea that they couldn’t have kept the most iconic part of the Defender, it’s nose/face, is balls....
Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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14th Sep 2019 7:17am |
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