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Do you approve of the new Defender - everything (including price) considered?
Yes
30%
 30%  [58]
No
69%
 69%  [132]
Total Votes: 190

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What puddle?



Member Since: 25 Oct 2013
Location: Reading
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Poll - hope this works, never done it before Now left.
Post #791933 10th Sep 2019 8:10pm
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pcoote



Member Since: 01 Aug 2010
Location: Oxford
Posts: 83

United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
The question is gamed for a no vote. What would be more interesting is who likes it when ignoring the outrageous prices.
Post #791936 10th Sep 2019 8:24pm
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jaygti



Member Since: 04 Nov 2012
Location: essex
Posts: 378

United Kingdom 2002 Defender 90 Td5 HT Epsom Green
I said no, but I like it.
It’s too pricey and it’s not even close to being a defender replacement.
I’d be tempted to replace my FL2 in a few years though. 2002 td5 90 county hardtop
Post #791937 10th Sep 2019 8:29pm
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Sulisuli



Member Since: 30 Oct 2016
Location: South west
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey
The question is equal it’s not loaded toward a no vote, do you work for JLR What Puddle (please tell me your surname isn’t McGovern) Rolling with laughter 2015 HT XS 90
2008 SVX 90
2000 XS TD5 90
Post #791938 10th Sep 2019 8:30pm
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What puddle?



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pcoote:
Well I didn't do that on purpose, but you can't ignore the price part of it. If it were "sub £20,000" as Land Rover actually said when it was talked about some years back, then it would be great. But the crazy prices just knock the whole thing out, to me. Now left.
Post #791939 10th Sep 2019 8:30pm
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What puddle?



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Sulisuli wrote:
The question is equal it’s not loaded toward a no vote, do you work for JLR What Puddle (please tell me your surname isn’t McGovern) Rolling with laughter


I wish I did work for JLR! Though I'd be sacked in a day. Years ago, I use to run a website called SVX - long before the SVX came out. Land Rover invited me to a glimpse of drawings of the new Defender (a focus group). This was about 12 years ago (I think) but I couldn't make it as I'm self-employed and had booked a load of work in that day. Still kicking myself. This was the SVX then:

 Now left.
Post #791941 10th Sep 2019 8:34pm
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Sulisuli



Member Since: 30 Oct 2016
Location: South west
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey
I had an svx and loved it Thumbs Up 2015 HT XS 90
2008 SVX 90
2000 XS TD5 90
Post #791942 10th Sep 2019 8:35pm
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gtmotorsport



Member Since: 29 Jun 2016
Location: Cornwall
Posts: 97

United Kingdom 2006 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Zermatt Silver
My own personal view on the new Defender with the price tags of the 110, is good luck Landrover.
I honestly can't see how farmers, etc will spend that sort of money and that should have been the target markets. Landrover have forgotten the loyalty factor, which lets face it has kept customers returning for years despite poor quality issues and bad customer relations. Not for me and can't imagine seeing many around farms as well as mines and quarries.
Post #791966 10th Sep 2019 9:42pm
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Sulisuli



Member Since: 30 Oct 2016
Location: South west
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey
Can’t wait to see them on imerys fleet around the clay heaps Graham Rolling with laughter 2015 HT XS 90
2008 SVX 90
2000 XS TD5 90
Post #791971 10th Sep 2019 9:54pm
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nidge n



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I submitted no because the price simply cannot be ignored. The original defender was an honest no frills product where no one judge and you drove it not wanting to be judged. It’s as British as a red telephone box and a boarder collie. Non threatening and accepted. I don’t particularly like the new defender but I’m not a hater. It’s just not captured the spirit of the original. It’s existence is purely for profit by a company that appears to be profiteering on its past. If it had another name it wouldn’t be so divisive. If it had another name it would go unrecognised. But Land Rover called it defender and made it a 50k plus product. That is completely against the spirit of the last incarnation. For me, that’s whats wrong. I really wanted to add it to my 110 and heritage 90, but I feel that I’m having my tummy tickled. Be interesting to learn the price point of Radcliffe grenadier , but I’m actually shocked with myself that I’ve had such an adverse reaction. I think that has a great deal to do with the price.
Post #791973 10th Sep 2019 9:58pm
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parktag



Member Since: 30 Sep 2008
Location: Brittany
Posts: 366

France 2008 Defender 130 Puma 2.4 HCPU Zermatt Silver
I also voted no because of the price. I guess i'm waiting to see what the 130 looks like when ever that may be. 130 crew cab
98 V8 Disco
Post #791975 10th Sep 2019 10:14pm
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zippo87



Member Since: 29 Mar 2019
Location: Moray
Posts: 100

Scotland 1996 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Epsom Green
Are people gonna scratch and dent their doors and wings and call it ‘character’ I doubt that very much. It’s a nice motor and all that, but it doesn’t deserve the name.
Post #791981 11th Sep 2019 2:46am
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ericvv



Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
Posts: 5816

Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
Post #791983 11th Sep 2019 4:32am
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williamthedog



Member Since: 29 Dec 2012
Location: south wales
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2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 PU Tamar Blue
It looks all very nice, but I think it lacks the character of the" real defender ". Not on my to get list anyway.
Post #791984 11th Sep 2019 4:54am
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BobT



Member Since: 13 Jan 2017
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 110

United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Santorini Black
I’ve had Defenders continuously for twenty five years.
That’s not a Defender, I think it’s a disaster.
It looks like a modified Discovery to me and as for the price, a Yummy Mummy car.
Post #791986 11th Sep 2019 5:14am
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