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Tim in Scotland



Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
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Pilgrimmick wrote:
Did I hear correctly, think he said the body colour was not paint, but a body wrap?

Not sure if that is good or bad. The local body shop will not have any experience with it so all repairs will have to be via dealers, but could be an afternoon for a change of colour, peel old one off and wrap up with new. Perfect for criminals!😂

No, that is a clear £2900 optional extra body protection film wrap, so you can have it in plain painted versions just that it will not cost you extra to repair body damage sustained by supermarket trolleys if you have plain paint! Any company that does vehicle wrapping should be able to repair it. TBH I would prefer a gloss wrap, these matte finishes are a nightmare to keep clean.
Also those body coloured stick on things on the rear, according to Hammond’s review they are optional and removable, can anyone photoshop a 110 and a 90 with those in gloss black to give us all an idea, also I think gloss black A pillars would be an improvement. As for the packed lunch box on the offside - looks very vulnerable to damage by passing tucks and stealing by thieves Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #791712 10th Sep 2019 9:42am
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
AndrewS wrote:
Im so Censored annoyed that there is no hairdryer in the accessory options FFS Land Rover what are you doing.


Perhaps you've hit on the purpose of the exterior "lunchbox" thing - after all Busty Wetsuit Girl does reach for the lunchbox when she gets back to the car.

Hmm, I've just realised how wrong that sounds, never mind! Embarassed

Edit, I've just found the "lunchbox" on the LR website, it's actually an "external gear carrier"...

... so I guess it's for drugs, part of the "urban" theme.


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Post #791713 10th Sep 2019 9:46am
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MikeJ



Member Since: 04 May 2014
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Fuji White
I think the commercial looks better...

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Post #791717 10th Sep 2019 9:54am
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Ads90



Member Since: 16 Jun 2008
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Keswick Green
Don't like the weird colour thing on the window?

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FTFY

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Post #791719 10th Sep 2019 10:00am
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g-mack



Member Since: 07 Jan 2014
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the way i see it, this car is build for the occupants. when the defender/90/100/series were build to work and did that well.
this car will NEVER be a work horse. The commercial version is a joke!all doors no load load bay. saying that if i were looking for a disco type car this would be the one! It just should have been renamed something else. It is in no way a DEFENDER replacement!
oh and 3 roof options? no sunroof, sunroof, big sunroof Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter My 109 thread

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Post #791724 10th Sep 2019 10:13am
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NoDo$h



Member Since: 18 Aug 2007
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AndrewS wrote:
Im so Censored annoyed that there is no hairdryer in the accessory options FFS Land Rover what are you doing.


The First Edition Rolling Eyes has a domestic plug socket, so you can specify your own preference in hair styling accessories. 

54 Freelander modded for mud
2008 D3 SE
2010 90 XS SW
1978 88 Series 3 undergoing surgery with a new owner
2007 90 County Truck Cab - gone
2006 D3 SE - gone
2004 Freelander Sport - gay
1999 Disco V8 ES rotted to bits
Post #791725 10th Sep 2019 10:14am
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Midlander1231



Member Since: 27 Aug 2019
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NoDo$h wrote:
Just looking at the configurator and the MPG figures are around 30mpg for both the diesels, so expect 25 in real world. And as for the spec you get for the price it's hilarious.

If JLR were on the stock exchange you'd be seeing some graphs going down faster than a downhill skier. They've recovered some lost D5 sales to those who were hanging on to their D4s. They may have recovered some sales from those who bought the last of the old Defender as a status symbol, but it's going to struggle to sell to the majority of former Defender buyers and I really don't see what new markets will exist for them


Ive been hanging on to my 2015, Discovery HSE Luxury, waiting to order a Defender II. I wasn’t keen on the Discovery 5, but with a replacement cost, like for like, of nearly £85,000 for a Defender II, the Discovery 5 is suddenly a surprise contender!
The D240 engine in a Defender II is also less economical than my current Discovery, something I find quite hard to comprehend!


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Post #791733 10th Sep 2019 10:57am
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Tim in Scotland



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£925 for a built in air compressor.......... this is robbery seeing as there is one built into every air-suspended car anyway, why not just utilise that with an extra connection ? Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
Post #791734 10th Sep 2019 11:01am
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SN



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Ads90 wrote:
Don't like the weird colour thing on the window?

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FTFY

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if you watch the review on the thread in General, they say you can opt to NOT HAVE the square thingummy.... Steve N | 21MY Defender | 08MY Discovery 3 (history) | 06MY Discovery 3 (ancient history)
Post #791736 10th Sep 2019 11:23am
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DonH2000



Member Since: 12 Jan 2015
Location: North Kent
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
Sorry, but so far it is not for me however I will wait until I see one on the road before I finally make up my mind. Cheers Don.
Post #791738 10th Sep 2019 11:25am
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pux146



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MikeJ wrote:
I think the commercial looks better...

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This looks hideous from the side on as a commercial Shocked 2007 2.4 90 fettled & remapped.
Post #791739 10th Sep 2019 11:28am
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ericvv



Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
Specced up a Swiss 110X P400 with the cheapest Urban pack and a few other options. On the road price VAT included 121.990 CHF or equivalent 99.000 £. Shocked
Guess I’m going to take even better care of the SVX from now on. Laughing
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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Grenadier



Member Since: 23 Jul 2014
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France 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Corris Grey
Everything that is wrong about this new Discfender was highlighted by two things.

1. McGovern. The way he was dressed is how he ‘sees’ the evolution of LR. Snazzy, middle-aged urban chic. Open collars, jacket, hankie in the breast pocket. That, to him and the design team, is their target market.

2. Architects. This was then backed up by one of the many videos when a slim, middle-aged, be-stubbled architect, sporting a white open-collared shirt, slid his plans into his Defender before driving off, later showing it parked up in the McLaren-Factory sterile double garage of his Uber-contemporary home.

This is JLR’s target market. I’m not saying that amongst us on this forum there aren’t urbanites, middle-agers, architects and professionals, and open-collar wearing men (indeed I’ve been known to sport an open-collar with a jacket on occasion). The difference is that on this forum there are also the retired, the DIY mechanics, the unemployed, the farmer, soldier, utility worker. The teacher, the company exec, the accountant. There’s Overlanders, green-laners, modifiers and poseurs. There are the sporty types, the loafers, the always-in-the-garage-of-a-Sunday-ers. There are thin types and fat types, men types and women types. Some with double-barrelled surnames, some who are not even sure if they have a name. Some who want a clean good-handling Defender, some who want a hoseable workhorse. There’s the member who knows everything about LRs, and those that know nothing. Those who attend fairs and shows and take endless photos, those that merely accept it for what it is. There are those who’s first focus is to remap, those who want to ‘find that leak’ and those that just need to tow a horse box. And between us we own not one Defender that looks like the next, and that’s not just because one is clean and one is dirty. The variety of people, views, tastes, mods and vehicles that can be found on this forum, yet who all settle on a level-playing field that is the singular, almost obsessive love that comes of Defender ownership, is what made this vehicle so great.

This new Defender is clearly a capable bit of kit, for the 21c. But much as with another 21C-ism, this vehicle is having an identity crisis. It is a Disco 5, but it wants to identify as a Defender, and it has every ‘right’ to do so. Just not by me it won’t. Big Cry Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey
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Markez79



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I can only see a 20 inch wheel option........says it all.
Post #791747 10th Sep 2019 11:45am
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Muddybigdog



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Zambezi Silver
Discovery 5.1

Barbie and Ken will be very happy, as it looks just as plastic. Jumped ship to reliability - Mitsubishi L200
Puma 90 XS - Sold
D3 - 2.7 S x2 (both Sold)
Freelander 2 HSE - Sold
Freelander 1 - Sold
Disco 2 - Sold
Post #791750 10th Sep 2019 11:50am
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