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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804   
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We’ve had a Jimny parked in our town centre the past few days as part of a Suzuki marketing campaign and the more I see it, the more I wonder if one of the reasons for the delayed delivery of the new Defender is that (whilst smaller) it basically looks how you would have expected a proper modern interpretation of the 90 to look. Yes the grille is different, but the rake of the window, the squared roof, the wheel/body/height proportions, the round headlights etc etc, it really is, in the flesh, a mini 90. Perhaps they stole a march on the Def and JLR had to go back to the aesthetics drawing board and make some changes. They’d look pretty foolish just releasing a larger identikit model...
 Monsieur Le Grenadier
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22nd Mar 2019 12:19pm |
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| discomog Member Since: 09 May 2015 Location: Notts/Lincs Border Posts: 2526  
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You've got to admit they've done a pretty good job on the Jimny. Just out of interest does anyone know what their projected Worldwide sales are for the Jimny? Defender 90XS SW
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22nd Mar 2019 2:12pm |
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| DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1400 
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In a world full of image conscious SUV softroaders, 2 vehicles stand out today as genuine old school 4x4s.
Suzuki Jimny and Jeep Wrangler. The Jimny has a waiting list of more than a year and the Wrangler is breaking all production records for Jeep. Proof indeed that there is still a worldwide market for real 4x4s. Now here's a thought. The Jimny sells between £15K to £20K. Then there's a big gap before the Wrangler starts at £45K and goes up to £50K, at least at the inflated UK and European prices. There is plenty of space in there for another genuine, beam axle equipped, vehicle. That's right where the old Defender used to be, but the new one won't. Who will fill the gap?  |
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22nd Mar 2019 9:50pm |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4206 
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Well, there is one other vehicle, which in basic form would fit nicely in that gap, if only it were valuable here, the 70 Series Land Cruiser. Granted, the big V8 diesel might be a pricey beast, but sure Toyota could find a nice EU compliant 6 cylinder to go in there. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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22nd Mar 2019 10:09pm |
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| dolomite Member Since: 05 Apr 2014 Location: pitesti Posts: 66 |
No worries about this, the gap will be filled soon by another two vehicles: New Ford Bronco and the unnamed yet one developed by Ineos under the "Project Grenadier" ! https://www.foxnews.com/auto/is-this-mule-the-new-ford-bronco https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/land-rover/d...-announced |
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23rd Mar 2019 4:15am |
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| dolomite Member Since: 05 Apr 2014 Location: pitesti Posts: 66 |
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23rd Mar 2019 4:21am |
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| LR90XS2011 Member Since: 05 Apr 2011 Location: bickenhill Posts: 3641 
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if the bronco has a raptor version I could see it selling well
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23rd Mar 2019 8:00am |
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| Vintagepaul Member Since: 20 Jan 2015 Location: Rye, East Sussex Posts: 482 
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"No worries about this, the gap will be filled soon by another two vehicles: New Ford Bronco and the unnamed yet one developed by Ineos under the "Project Grenadier!"
If the Grenadier looks anything like this Autocar image it should do well.  Click image to enlarge 2015 Defender 90XS HT |
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23rd Mar 2019 8:58am |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4206
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If it looks anything like that image Jim will find himself on the receiving end of JLR’s lawyers surely. Or is the Defender likeness old enough to be out of trademark? 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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23rd Mar 2019 10:08am |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3265 
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I really can't see the appeal of the Jimny. Is it the price? Styling?
Presumably most will buy as a supermini alternative to Fiat 500, Mini etc. A fraction perhaps as weekend toys? Lots of folks on here seem to be saying nice things but has anyone actually bought one? |
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23rd Mar 2019 10:21am |
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| R1200GS Member Since: 12 Jul 2015 Location: Hampshire Posts: 265 
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My brother in NZ has one on order for August delivery. He has gone for the two tone paint auto version and thinks it will be fine for the slower NZ roads found in South Island and a few tracks.
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23rd Mar 2019 10:45am |
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| nitram17 Member Since: 08 Jun 2014 Location: newcastle Posts: 2261 |
I dont think you can patent a likeness with cars ..just about every eurobox looks like it had the same grandparents and two of the offspring have mated"The ineos looks great but i doubt the final car will look like that ,its just hype/spin to garner publicity! |
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23rd Mar 2019 12:17pm |
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| defender9 Member Since: 12 Mar 2016 Location: Fylde Coast Posts: 1629 
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You can patent protect a car design/shape, Porsche did it with the 911.
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23rd Mar 2019 12:53pm |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4206
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And JLR just won a case against Land Wind for ripping off the Evoque, but that was an almost an exact facsimile. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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23rd Mar 2019 2:24pm |
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