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snowric



Member Since: 01 Aug 2011
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
MAF sensor
Hi all, I have been having some problems accelerating from idle. Before taking it into the shop I am checking the basics.

So can a defender record 2.4 puma run without its MAG sensor?

Just disconnected mine - running in my front yard - and the engine happily pitted on throttle responded etc. I thought if MAF lead disconnected engine would cut out.

Snowy Snowy
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snowric



Member Since: 01 Aug 2011
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
Just to give you all full problem. When cold - and of course not always - my defender either does not respond to the throttle for 1-5 seconds and then accelerates or it picks up revs rise them drop and then it works again. I have had codes read and of course nothing came up. My mate at a small garage up the road checked the throttle sensor and map sensor - he said voltages moved up and down “fine” but he doesn’t know transits of defenders.’

Once the car is hot it works fine. One other thought, could it be the turbo actuator. I see when I press the throttle on my drive it engages the turbo but then backs off again. Maybe of course interrelated to MAF sensor.

Thanks for your help. Snowy Snowy
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snowric



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
OK done some reading and now understand that the ECU uses a default map if MAF sensor isn’t attached.... Snowy
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williamthedog



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2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 PU Tamar Blue
Have a search for vcv valve or egr valve. Either will give those symptoms. Probably vcv.
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snowric



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
Many thanks EGR deleted so will need to change the VCV and dona relearn. Snowy
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Alex L



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Barolo Black
Mine keeps throwing an engine management light since the remap - bought a code reader and I see its most likely the MAF. Hopefully JE Engineering will be taking a look next week to resolve


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Post #749463 5th Jan 2019 8:25pm
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kaney



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Epsom Green
Just to give you all full problem. When cold - and of course not always - my defender either does not respond to the throttle for 1-5 seconds and then accelerates or it picks up revs rise them drop and then it works again. I have had codes read and of course nothing came up. My mate at a small garage up the road checked the throttle sensor and map sensor - he said voltages moved up and down “fine” but he doesn’t know transits of defenders.’

Once the car is hot it works fine. One other thought, could it be the turbo actuator. I see when I press the throttle on my drive it engages the turbo but then backs off again. Maybe of course interrelated to MAF sensor.

Thanks for your help. Snowy

I've had this problem too
I changed the fuel cap thinking that could have had somthing to do with it to no effect
Then bought a LR MAF seemed ok for a while but i think the hot summer helped or i thought it was better
Now i'm going to bite the bullet and buy a new fuel pump from Paddocks PART NUMBER: LR009587 and hopefully that works Banging Head
Post #752989 21st Jan 2019 11:06pm
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MK



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Santiago
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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
How do you know your HP pump isnt working? Puma 110" SW

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Post #753000 21st Jan 2019 11:31pm
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kaney



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Epsom Green
Garage has checked and checked and recons it's a common problem with transit's so before ordering one more check then being done a week on Friday
Post #753040 22nd Jan 2019 8:43am
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kaney



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Epsom Green
Well just double checked and it's not the item wanted it's part no wqb100440 the one that sits in the tank and a lot less money
Post #753052 22nd Jan 2019 9:35am
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MK



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Santiago
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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
Isnt that a lift pump? From your avatar I reckon yours is a 2.4 which does not have it. Puma 110" SW

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Post #753090 22nd Jan 2019 12:57pm
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kaney



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Epsom Green
Given my reg and checked with LR it's the fuel pump which goes in the tank also added seals and adapter fuel line
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MK



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
No fuel pump on the tank of a 2.4 Puma 110" SW

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Post #753259 23rd Jan 2019 1:48am
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Dreamweapon



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Scotland 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Cairns Blue
snowric wrote:
Many thanks EGR deleted so will need to change the VCV and dona relearn.


Give the MAF and MAP a good clean with contact cleaner first. Run diesel fuel additive (Liqui Moly or similar) for a couple of tanks and a couple of good motorway runs, especially if you often drive short journeys. Also you can run a relearn without replacing the VCV (using Forscan or similar) first to find out if the actual valve is knackered. Had similar problems and the VCV relearn smoothed things out considerably.
No reason to replace components that just need a clean and / or reset.
Post #753271 23rd Jan 2019 6:58am
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kaney



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Epsom Green

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Well this was changed today and there is a differance driving it next job is for the oil leak rocker cover gasket hopefully and not the gasket underneath the next block the macanic said he also thinks there is a falt on the fuel pressure regulator so that will prob be changed at the same time as it was late and he was busy giving other owners their cars back so we will chat about that another time.
I wonder if i will ever be able to save up again for anything else
Post #756329 4th Feb 2019 7:48pm
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