Naks wrote:

yeah, but no matter how smooth I am, there is a distinct grating going 2-3 and 3-4 esp. On my drive home just now, I went 3-N, freewheeled and then N-4, and it was really sticky going into 4. something is definitely rotten in that gearbox

Miserableolgit wrote:

Lorryman100 wrote:

Or it's the ecu registering that the vehicle is moving and is employing the anti stall feature.

Yep.

As for clunks, TBH I've never had a Defender or earlier 110, 90 etc that didn't have a certain amount of 'play' in the drivetrain, it's the nature of the beast even to a certain extent from new. Ok there are obviously variations but as components wear the clunks get gradually worse and can be pronounced especially if the driver is used quick car style gearchanges. My wife does not have a 'feel' for any of my Defenders and is guaranteed to produce the most god awful clunks and bangs during every gearchange. Instead of feeling for the next gear she just snaps it in and does very the same with the clutch and throttle - everything is in a rush. I tend to take my time and drive as though it has a crash gearbox, the transmission is a straightforward but somewhat dated design and complains if it's treated like a euro or jap car.

Ditto exactly! MOGs said it all. I drive mine the same as the Series which has no synchro - feed the gears in, take your time and don't put the power down until you have released the clutch - no notches or clunks, it's as smooth as a car, you just have to take your time The play in the drive-train will come with more miles for me

There does seem to be more issues with the Pumas drive-train than it predecessors though They don't seem to like the extra oomph!

galawaygreen wrote:

some advice needed please

after a few months of new puma ownership and trying to get to establish if this is an issue.

2nd gear change notchy and clunkly at best 2nd to 3rd sometimes the same, how i pull the gearstick seems to have an impact (crazy is there a right and wrong way to do this ?)
big clunking noise coming from gear box when changing any gear sounds bit like a new uj needed but cannot find any play when i checked.
is it normally to have free play when rotating the front prop about 20mm each way does not seem to be from the uj but play at gear box. rear prop has no play at all.

all under warrenty but do not want to look a complete idiot when i speak to the dealer.
going in to talk about this issue
leaking footwells and the other below


Ok update they want the car in for a whole week to address the roof bullhead side steps rear step they won't do the door mirrors as there is a chip on one of them and this is the reason for the corrosion, what , tried to tell me that the side steps were not standard, what a as him to look 10 feet to his right at the one in the show room to see an identical car to the one he was viewing!!!

The leaky footwells are to be looked at they want to strip the dash out for this and the most amusing part was when I was told I need to pay a £10 a day damage waiver for the loan car next week while they take there time to sort issues, Jesus they do try your patience

Leaving the clunking clutch until later as did not want to tax the dealer to much in one go. According to the chap if you bolt on any land rover goodies then you only get one year and are not covered under the full warrantee true or not ?



rust bubble on roof
corrosion on foot step rear
corrosion on side steps both
corrosion on bulkhead

car is only 8 months old!!

sad thing is all this is considered normal

MK wrote:

If you are sure your friction plate etc is good then the grating comes from the synchros. Are you aware of the kind of oil it is in there? You can do an oil analisys and check how much bronze runs.

Well, the truck has 24000km on it now, and the gearbox is still on its factory oil, never been changed. Will take it up with the stealer when it goes in next week. --
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Naks wrote:

MK wrote:

If you are sure your friction plate etc is good then the grating comes from the synchros. Are you aware of the kind of oil it is in there? You can do an oil analisys and check how much bronze runs.

Well, the truck has 24000km on it now, and the gearbox is still on its factory oil, never been changed. Will take it up with the stealer when it goes in next week.

My new box came with ATF . I do not know if the idiot who setup the thing was local or international. Puma 110" SW

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DefenderOfTheEarth wrote:

I didn't ask but might I have a newer clutch? Had one fitted yesterday under warranty on my 57 reg 110.

Feels MUCH better!