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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2638   
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I just buy pre-mixed coolant and keep a bottle in the car permanently.
The reservoir cap should be considered a service item, I change it every year after I started noticing coolant loss a few years ago.  --
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2nd Aug 2016 5:54am |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20348 
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That's the only two I know of, Texaco XLC and Motul Inugel Optimal.
The former wasn't easy to get not so long ago, the latter I have now and i think it's better. Both meet LR tech specs. |
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2nd Aug 2016 9:25am |
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| agentmulder Member Since: 16 Apr 2016 Location: Outer Space Posts: 1324 
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Ok,
So yeah, that was painful. That effing bloody clip on the thermostat! Easy to get open with vice grips, but then to pull the pipe off with my hands... sheesh that was hard. Next is getting the dang clip back around the pipe when you're trying to get it back on. The dang vice grips wont open enough if they're in the 'just right closed enough position' - that is until after about 40mins of swearing and tool throwing I figured out a way. In hindsight once the method is learned I actually don't think remote hose clamps are required, but they sure would have saved all my earlier attempts... Ok, so the picture in the WSM:
I'm sorry, but where and what looks like that? Next up in the WSM is the statement:
"Heh, ok, well I guess it'll be obvious!" was my thinking... But nooooo. I could run a full tank a diesel and I'd still have no idea if it were opened or closed... I look up the temperature that the thermostat opens: 88deg "Ah great! I'll just watch the dial until it gets to 88deg!" - oh, um, oh yeah ... 
Ah but lucky me, I have a GAP diagnostic tool
Hook it up and get a live feed of coolant temp and cylinder head temp, coolant sits at 57deg constantly while idling in the driveway. Neighbours are getting miffed at the revs, so I take it for a drive, aiming at hills but get stuck behind every old biddy in their Swift/Colt/Funcargo ... Finally after 20mins I get it up to 86deg, stop at the top of hill to stop the radiator getting any airflow and success, 90deg! By now the expansion tank was back to the 'cold level' instead of 30mm above, so I topped it up again and that was that. I think?? It's the same now that it's cooled (maybe a snip lower actually). I'm travelling with funnel and some premixed fluid to top it up if need be, will see how it goes over the next few days. But far out, while it didn't take as long it was up there with fuel tank removal for annoyance and pain. PS I forgot my glasses and waved to a G-Class driver thinking it was another 110 - no response  Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants... |
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4th Aug 2016 3:55am |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8024  
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I filled mine as per the instr bit didn't stay out, just let out stand over night with cap off, then top up in morning. Then out for normal drive and check at end. Having been left over night it didn't need any more to top up post the drive
. Cheers James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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4th Aug 2016 5:35am |
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| Stu_XS Member Since: 22 Jul 2018 Location: Hampshire Posts: 86 
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Bit of an old thread I know but perhaps useful to know. Coolants in the Havoline (Chevron /Texaco /Caltex) range are manufactured by a company called Arteco which is a joint venture between Total & Chevron (Total owns the manufacturing facility) and hence there are Total equivalents to these which may be easier or more convenient to source. In this case Coolelf Auto Supra if you want ready to use or Glacelf Auto Supra if you want concentrated. http://www.lubs-products-database.total.co...7000/27452 http://www.lubs-products-database.total.co...7000/27446 Stu... 2013 Aintree Green 90 XS SW 2.2 Puma |
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29th Sep 2018 1:02pm |
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| kmac Member Since: 07 Oct 2009 Location: Middlesex Posts: 1309 
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Just read the manual instructions posted here to change the coolant
Curious as to why you need to raise the vehicle - is this just for access or does the front need to be raised to allow all coolant to drain out? Unless i'm taking off a road-wheel I don't raise the vehicle as there is plenty of room to work under there without doing so. |
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29th Sep 2018 2:41pm |
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| expatRob Member Since: 24 Feb 2015 Location: Frankfurt Posts: 58  
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good question did you get any answers?
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4th May 2020 8:18pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20348
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There isn't a need to raise the vehicle. But you need to check the container you have will fit under there and it will fit and hold the fluid capacity there.
I used a large filtered funnel and a 20L container so fluid is kept clean should you need to replace it with the same fluid. The large rectangular funnel meant when the hose was released it would go straight in as it will come out at quite a rate. I found releasing the clip up on the hose first, then take the hose off worked best. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🇮🇪🇺🇸⛽️🛢️⚙️🧰💪 |
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4th May 2020 8:41pm |
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| LR90XS2011 Member Since: 05 Apr 2011 Location: bickenhill Posts: 3641 
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i used this
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00544...&psc=1 50/50 with distilled water DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS, I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy |
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5th May 2020 5:42am |
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| HardCharger Member Since: 03 Mar 2013 Location: Manila Posts: 735  
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Quick question guys, these show the proper WSS-M97B44 rating but the local Total stations where I am in South East Asia have the coolant spec WSE-M97B44 (all other approval specs and ratings the same except this one which is WSE and not WSS). Still safe to use? I looked orange from outside the bottle but upon pouring, it was yellowish. Since the bottles were displayed exposed to the sun, I'm reckoning that the red pigment in the dye faded already hence the yellowish fluid despite the orange appearance when in the bottle? |
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5th May 2020 7:47am |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4655 
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I use this by Comma
https://www.commaoil.com/passenger-vehicles/products/view/351 1982 88" 2.25 diesel 1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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