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| shropshiredefender Member Since: 05 Jun 2017 Location: Shropshire Posts: 834   
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Had gearbox output shaft replaced today simply as a precaution
 Click image to enlarge Turns out to have been just in time Click image to enlarge There was significant wear - it seems to have been replaced before I bought it @40k miles and has done 75k since This was the replacement Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge And the final touch Click image to enlarge At 116K miles she is as tight as new!  |
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9th Aug 2018 12:47pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17480  
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I reckon that technique would work quite well for the output adaptor shaft joint too. Incidentally did you weld the inner face as well, or just the outer? |
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9th Aug 2018 4:10pm |
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| shropshiredefender Member Since: 05 Jun 2017 Location: Shropshire Posts: 834
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Just the outer and a quality weld (not done by me and my stick welder!)
Would, I'm sure, work with the output shaft but I wasn't prepared to have that done when the Ashcroft kit was available and seems a more elegant solution. |
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9th Aug 2018 4:20pm |
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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971 
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do the fronts wear in the same way the rears do?
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10th Aug 2018 5:37pm |
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| shropshiredefender Member Since: 05 Jun 2017 Location: Shropshire Posts: 834
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Personally over 5 different Land Rovers and well over 500k miles I've only had problems with the rears.
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10th Aug 2018 5:44pm |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1767 
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I'll be honest, I have been tempted to weld my rears up to help with my backlash. I'd swap to one piece if I could but I'd have to replace the Salisbury axle!
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10th Aug 2018 6:32pm |
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| shropshiredefender Member Since: 05 Jun 2017 Location: Shropshire Posts: 834
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The chap who looks after my Land Rover has 2 110s with Salisbury diffs. He welded the half shafts on both of his several years ago, the one pictured is used for heavy off roading and towing, the other is his daily driver.
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10th Aug 2018 6:43pm |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720
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They can do, but there's not much you can do with them, as unlike the rears there is a CV joint rather than a half shaft, so if you welded it, you'd make it extremely difficult to replace the CV joint if it failed. |
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10th Aug 2018 7:29pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17480
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I've never (yet) had a problem with the fronts, but have got through a succession of rears. I think the fronts benefit from a certain amount of lubricant from the swivel housings, whereas the rears are as standard sealed from the axle tube and hence unlubricated.
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10th Aug 2018 9:37pm |
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| LR90XS2011 Member Since: 05 Apr 2011 Location: bickenhill Posts: 3646 
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interesting, at about 18000 miles my rears were starting to rust and were stuck to the shafts, had to use a mallet to get them off to remove them and grease them, 6000 miles later they were as I had left them with loads of grease in the cap and wet splines that slid nicely.
The fronts on both occasions were clearly in a different state and looked all lovely and lubricated. So I expect what Blackwolf says is true I have added removing wheels and checking them to my annual (3000mile appox) service schedule DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS, I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy |
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11th Aug 2018 5:50am |
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| gazman Member Since: 17 Aug 2015 Location: Liverpool Posts: 652 
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My td5 has one piece rear shafts, was this a upgrade by land rover to stop this or has someone changed them?? 2014 - current ..... 2003 defender td5 90 (my car)
2009 - current .... 2005 zx10r |
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11th Aug 2018 8:07am |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
no as fitted LR factory to 2003 model in 2005 to 2006 two peace rear shaft fitted at LRJ and to end production
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11th Aug 2018 8:17am |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20497
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I think the rear gets a lot more weather around it, and those basic rubber caps are not waterproof and can trap water in.
I'm sure I had water into mine, as my issues started after passing a Ford in early spring. Same thing with the Prop UJ's the nipples are fine but if ones missing the wet will go straight in. The front axle avoids most road water but gets splashed up more at the back. The output adaptor shaft is so commonly un-lubed as BW explained to me a few years ago it's no surprise they wear badly. When I last had a clutch change it was okay, but I got them to lube it before putting back. I'm sure that it wasn't originally! No Guts, No Glory. 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🇮🇪🇺🇸⛽️🛢️⚙️🧰💪 |
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11th Aug 2018 10:54am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5859  
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What warning signs should we (who've yet to join the backlash club) be looking for? Sounds, feelings, visual?
Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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11th Aug 2018 11:07am |
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