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JOW240725

Member Since: 04 May 2015
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 7904

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey

2.2 TDCi Oil Cooler Life?

Our 2012 2.2 TDCI 110SW is currently at our local independent having a new output shaft fitted. Whilst talking to him he mentioned he'd just had a Puma with a failed oil cooler which had filled the cooling system with sticky oil which was virtually impossible to clean and ended up having to replace quite a few parts.

I just wondered if anyone has had this issue and what would be the expected life of the oil cooler? Would it be worth replacing?

I was driving whilst having this conversation so wasn't paying full attention. As a mechanical numpty I've heard of the fuel cooler, but not the oil cooler? I know our's had the Q421 oil pump update recall done in 2015, is this related?

Any info you have would be gratefully received. TIA

Photo unrelated but some nice classics!

Click image to enlarge James
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7th Jun 2018 4:34pm

Zed

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: In the woods
Posts: 3254

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black

How long does it take to replace the output shaft?

I think mine needs doing and I'm trying to get an idea of cost.

7th Jun 2018 4:40pm

JOW240725

Member Since: 04 May 2015
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 7904

I've left it to the experts, so will let you know when I get the bill!

I did find this though https://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/f...?769007971 suggesting 3 hours for the Ashcroft replacement so suspect the OEM would be similar? James
MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html
MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641
MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557
Instagram @suffolk_rovers

7th Jun 2018 4:58pm

Zed

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: In the woods
Posts: 3254

Cheers. 3 hours doesn't seem too bad. Are you going for the Ashcroft part?

7th Jun 2018 5:47pm

JOW240725

Member Since: 04 May 2015
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 7904

Rightly or wrongly I'm not using the Ashcroft version. I've read a few mixed comments on them. I hope I don't regret this decision! James
MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html
MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641
MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557
Instagram @suffolk_rovers

7th Jun 2018 8:04pm

Scotm

Member Since: 28 Feb 2014
Location: Aberdeenshire
Posts: 666

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Orkney Grey

The gasket on my oil cooler went on my 2.2 tdci at about two years and filled coolant with oil. Dealer dealt with it under warranty including replacing the coolant pipes and flushing it a few times. So I guess it is a known fault. Not sure if there is anything preventive that can be done.

7th Jun 2018 8:46pm

LR90XS2011

Member Since: 05 Apr 2011
Location: bickenhill
Posts: 3639

2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green

there are products that you add to the coolant following a cooler failure that breaks down the oil to aid the flushing process DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy

8th Jun 2018 5:23am

JOW240725

Member Since: 04 May 2015
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 7904

Interesting to know, thank you. I am rather hoping to prevent it happening in the first place.

Any comments on when or if to replace gaskets or whole oil cooler as part of a routine maintenance? TIA

James
MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html
MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641
MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557
Instagram @suffolk_rovers

8th Jun 2018 6:51am

Julie

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: Nantes
Posts: 477

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green

JOW240725 wrote:
Rightly or wrongly I'm not using the Ashcroft version. I've read a few mixed comments on them. I hope I don't regret this decision!

Hmm.

The spline needs lubrication. I don't know how new grease may enter the spline if not accessible.

They mounted an Ashcroft version on mine just a few days ago. JLR themselves - not a local indie.
Only time will tell if it's going to be durable

8th Jun 2018 8:13pm

JOW240725

Member Since: 04 May 2015
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 7904

I'll be interested to see how you get on with the Ashcroft. Very surprised JLR are using them, almost admitting bad design! Wish id known that earlier, mine was fitted today

Lets see who's lasts the longest

8th Jun 2018 8:29pm

Julie

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: Nantes
Posts: 477

In order to have them fit the Ashcroft kit

I had to be very very persuasive ...

8th Jun 2018 8:38pm

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