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Chopperone Member Since: 13 Nov 2016 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 396 |
Where did that horrible expression New Years come from?
It’ singular- we are only celebrating one new year Well not me celebrating- I go to bed & sleep through it. May your life be like toilet paper ; long & useful. |
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1st Jan 2018 7:52am |
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Balvaig Member Since: 19 Feb 2016 Location: Fife Posts: 730 |
Me too - time and the calendar are a man made invention - totally meaningless in the great scheme of life.
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1st Jan 2018 10:22am |
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Laurie Member Since: 22 Feb 2008 Location: Sussex, England Posts: 2897 |
Let's cancel weekends then, they're only a man made invention.
Just work every day 'til you drop... |
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1st Jan 2018 10:58am |
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Balvaig Member Since: 19 Feb 2016 Location: Fife Posts: 730 |
No No No - just declare everyday a weekend - thats the best bet
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1st Jan 2018 11:15am |
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Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3497 |
Bizzarely Laurie, that is the reality for most people working in service industries in the UK. They are paid no more, and are contracted to work any day of the week.
I knew someone last year who worked Christmas Day in a food processing plant on standard pay (albeit with a day off in lieu). |
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1st Jan 2018 11:16am |
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Laurie Member Since: 22 Feb 2008 Location: Sussex, England Posts: 2897 |
I spent Christmas and the New Year at our caving club in Mendip.
Our fireman member traded his Christmas Day holiday for a New Years holiday which meant someone with a family could have Christmas day with them. Of course, having a job which requires you to work holidays is completely optional. |
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1st Jan 2018 12:12pm |
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Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3497 |
I think it was once, Laurie, but as people move jobs, or their employers update their contracts of employment, I think it is getting harder, especially if you have to work for some of our amazing retail giants. Next used to pay a premium for Sunday and Bank Holiday working but that was finished a while back. I believe Tesco still pay a premium for their longer serving employees, but that might have changed.
My Father worked in Newspapers all his life and he always got premium pay for working bank holidays. By the time he retired it was a normal working day (including Christmas Day). All employers have to provide a day of in Lieu, and he actually enjoyed the day off when he wanted, rather than taking the enforced bank holiday day. But it wasn't a choice. I will admit that he went into the industry knowing what he was letting himself in for, but working Christmas Day only came in 25 years ago, or so, when the London Papers decided to publish on Boxing Day. I think it is very encouraging that people without Children give their Christmas up so those with youngsters can enjoy this time of year I worked as an Electrician for many years, and you would be surprised how many of our 'customers' assumed that we were ok working nights, weekends, bank holidays etc. just so their employees didn't get disrupted during their working day. Even quite small jobs seem to upset everyones equilibrium. We were treated in some offices like we were unclean. We did get paid overtime in those days and the laughable part of it was, we were probably better qualified, and were earning a hell of a lot more money than the desk jockeys who looked down on us. The sad part of it is, working seven days a week had an enormous impact on your family and social life. I am now a desk jockey myself and can see the same sneering from others when the fire alarm is tested or air conditioning is serviced. I just make the engineers a mug of tea |
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1st Jan 2018 12:35pm |
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lambert.the.farmer Member Since: 11 Apr 2012 Location: harrogate Posts: 2006 |
What are these "days off" of which you speak? Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
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1st Jan 2018 2:46pm |
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Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3497 |
No Lambert, no days off when you have animals.
Did you see Countryfile last night? 78 year old New Zealand farmer. Still farming, still working seven days a week, still running! Lives in the middle of nowhere in absolute beautiful countryside. Makes you realise how unimportant 'things' are when you have that kind of wealth. He had 7 Children and 24 Grand Children so any spare time must go to signing birthday cards. |
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1st Jan 2018 2:56pm |
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Procta Member Since: 03 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 5164 |
sad thing rashers, retail is getting far to greedy and always wanting more and more. I worked for asda since 2002 right to 2015. In 2010 things turned very sour, they would keep the store open later and later, on xmas eve and new years eve. Keep people back to 10 pm! the store would be open till 8 pm! before they would just say right off and a have a good one, with in a matter of 30 mins of the last customer leaving, and we are talking about 3 30 pm finishes. So the days when everyone would meet up after work, were practically history sadly. The wage side of things, changed from old world pay to the new world pay, so some people still got good ratings on a weekend etc. New world pay would get a couple of quid more for a bank holiday that was it, no more for weekends. Depending on the type of contract you had, the bank holidays you ended up going in for £3 quid an hour. As they would still pay you if you took it off, they stopped new workers taking the bank hols off, and very recently they started to introduce 0 hour contracts for new people joining the company, and try to prevent them having a break. For what you put up with in retail at xmas time and what you get out of it at the end of the month, just isn't worth the paper at all. Its all thrown at you at august, as soon as November hits, you are brain washed with xmas Carrols, So come December you are practically wanting it to be over as soon as possible. Give Retail a chance, it would be open xmas day and easter sunday. Which I can see that happening sadly Retail does kick the spirt out everything, there should be a lot of laws keeping the rains on supermarkets etc. Only takes one Supermarket to push for something like what happened to your dad, and boom. All of them will be in on the act, Tescos was the 1st company to open boxing day, then the rest decided to follow. What used to get me too rashers, was how nasty customers got at xmas time etc, People walking out right in front of you at the last min when you are pulling a large pallet of beer isn't fun I tell you! I could go on etc. When I got out I had the best xmas since 2001! as I was off and got the chance to enjoy it and got a little bit of xmas spirt back. Every time I go into store, I feel sorry for the staff. One lass behind the till was so stressed and wound up she was on the verge of walking off, at xmas time, due to how she was been treated. I made her day as I said I know how you feel, as I used to work for asda. I said take your time, its only a supermarket. Everyone will have to wait wont they? it made her day that did. As she realised that there are some customers that do know and understand what they are going through. Emergency services etc I am very thankful, for those that do give up those special days. Since I started working ( 16 years of age) I always have a drink for them and spare a thought Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it! |
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3rd Jan 2018 12:53am |
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Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804 |
After work yesterday I returned to find this car parked in front of me.
Click image to enlarge Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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3rd Jan 2018 11:54am |
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RFT Member Since: 13 Nov 2010 Location: Cheshire Posts: 678 |
Was it "Paris Parked" i.e. with hand brake off?? so it can be shoved a few foot down the road? 130 Puma HCPU with an Artica 240LR Demountable Camper
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3rd Jan 2018 12:23pm |
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defender9 Member Since: 12 Mar 2016 Location: Fylde Coast Posts: 1629 |
The reverse warning bleeper thingy must have been going mental
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3rd Jan 2018 12:23pm |
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Procta Member Since: 03 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 5164 |
Grenadier you need a bull bar on that, stops people been an arse. did you give it a little push then ? Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back
Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it! |
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3rd Jan 2018 1:36pm |
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