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Procta

Member Since: 03 Dec 2016
Location: Sunderland
Posts: 5224

coming on very strong there grafty

as soon as the running gear is in, you practically half way there. Shame you cannot get the boxes sent away to be rebuilt and upgraded, but then again I don't know what budget or time scale you are working to.
How common is a TD5 conversion into a RRC? Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it!

21st Dec 2017 11:39pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4794

To be honest I think the best upgrade you can do to the gearbox is an improved cooler. The standard one is pretty pants. Time scale is the main thing. I aim to have it on the road for my birthday in March and I can't be waiting for the gearbox to be rebuilt. Especially as I can do it myself

2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE
Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html
Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html
RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html
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21st Dec 2017 11:44pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4794

I have seen a couple of Td5 conversions. It makes sense as in many ways it's similar to a Td5 disco. There is certainly room. I'll probably make the second one into a Td5

21st Dec 2017 11:46pm

Procta

Member Since: 03 Dec 2016
Location: Sunderland
Posts: 5224

how easy is it to do a conversion in one of these then? I can see it not been a simple plug in play. If I was going to tackle an engine conversion again, id be wanting to see one in real life and wanting a good sorce of info, I had a bad experience with my last engine conversion sadly. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it!

21st Dec 2017 11:56pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4794

Td5 is easy really. Just need engine loom, ECU, 10AS and fuel pump. If going simpler than that you can fiddle the ECU to not look for the alarm module but you may as well activate the alarm and have the security.

Engine mounts would need welding but really pretty simple

22nd Dec 2017 12:02am

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4794

You could even put a Td5 speed transducer in the transfer box and then a speedohealer to double the output to the ECU and then have factory cruise control

22nd Dec 2017 12:03am

Procta

Member Since: 03 Dec 2016
Location: Sunderland
Posts: 5224

are the main looms the same across the board then grafty? I can see the engine mounts been the easiest part. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it!

22nd Dec 2017 1:01am

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4794

The engine loom is Td5 specific. It is basically all of the sensors and injectors to ecu. Essentially everything from the red plug on a Td5 ECU

22nd Dec 2017 8:19am

Procta

Member Since: 03 Dec 2016
Location: Sunderland
Posts: 5224

when I did my engine conversion grafty, I had to send away the vvc engine loom off to be converted over so it could plug into the metro main loom, Laugh is a lot of people were tight lipped on what wires to move over etc, a couple of years later, I was talking to a MG metro cup driver at the time who had done the same conversion, and he said it was only 6 wires to swop around! He said if Id known you were going to do yours, id have told you what wires to move over, save you the 70 quid!
Is it the same for these with the range rover/ defender looms? Or is the RRCs the same loom as the disco? Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it!

24th Dec 2017 11:19pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4794

The looms are totally different. However all you need is the engine loom to ECU then supply the engine and ECU with the correct power and ground. This would be independent of the main vehicle loom

24th Dec 2017 11:42pm

Procta

Member Since: 03 Dec 2016
Location: Sunderland
Posts: 5224

sounds more easier, than the vvc conversion I did

depending on what year the metro was, you had to have the loom converted to such. Which to me is still questionable to this day. Which was down to the alarm system, which was known as the 5AS ( 10 AS to defender lads)

you know what the most easiest thing would be, is to wire in the full works from the donor car, which is what some of the mg metro cup lads did, ( they ran the rover 25 engines in with the latest ecu system)
To me id just replace the full loom for a disco TD5 loom into a range rover classic. but I don't know about land/ range rover systems. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it!

25th Dec 2017 2:42am

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4794

Small update on the range rover. The autobox is now fitted. Just waiting for someone to become available to help me manoeuvre the transfer box into place

Click image to enlarge 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE
Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html
Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html
RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html
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28th Dec 2017 8:55pm

L110CDL

Member Since: 31 Oct 2015
Location: Devon
Posts: 10854

Looking good there grafty

at the moment i'm free tomorrow afternoon to come and help you

Clayton.

1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.
Keeper.

28th Dec 2017 9:02pm

Procta

Member Since: 03 Dec 2016
Location: Sunderland
Posts: 5224

That's if he isn't to busy playing with his new toy to take you up on the offer clayton

Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it!

28th Dec 2017 9:07pm

L110CDL

Member Since: 31 Oct 2015
Location: Devon
Posts: 10854

It will soon pass and he will get back to the job in hand Procta

Clayton.

1996 Golf Blue 300Tdi 110 Pick up.
Keeper.

28th Dec 2017 9:36pm

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