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| tookaphotoof Member Since: 18 Mar 2013 Location: dordrecht Posts: 1279   
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Three brackets. Two seater has brackets on either side, single seat has one bracket. You need a 10mm spanner.
Remove the nuts on the side of the seats and then you can easily fold them. |
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14th Nov 2017 8:19pm |
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| tookaphotoof Member Since: 18 Mar 2013 Location: dordrecht Posts: 1279
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@Blackwolf, the brackets are there because of the headrests. anyways, I unbolt them a lot as the childseat can’t be installed with the headrest in place.
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14th Nov 2017 8:22pm |
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| the gamekeeper Member Since: 01 Jan 2010 Location: Surrey Posts: 96  
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I'm with you on that one Blackwolf, removed the bolts from the said brackets 7 years ago to install seat covers never replaced then, I drop the seats all the time to access socket set and first aid box, good little storage space.
Tony |
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15th Nov 2017 7:39am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5859  
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Took this photo this morning. It seems to be similar to the part suggested by Blackwolf. However, it is only on the right hand side, no LHS version visible at all, and is not actually attached to anything. Is this the right item? Is it in the right place? Or is this an inexplicable extra item and the correct placement is behind (as opposed to alongside) the seats, as seems to be indicated by the exploded diagram uploaded by BW. Would a MY2011 DCPU have ever had a simpler, non-folding set of seats or were they always Puma from the get-go? Seriously confused and wonder if someone in the past has replaced these seats with a duff set?
 Click image to enlarge Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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15th Nov 2017 8:54am |
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| TimDaw Member Since: 13 Dec 2015 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 43  
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Do the tipping levers at the base of the seat, back corner seem to work? On mine one side they click open and close properly but n the other side it seems to be slightly misaligned and only unlocks with a bit of pushing on the seat back.
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15th Nov 2017 9:38am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17479 
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As far as I know all TDCi SW, USW, and DC vehicles left the factory with essentially the same second row seats. Obvoiusly the upholstery differs, but the subframe is (as far as I know) the same throughout production with two exceptions.
The first, and only significant, exception is that the second row seats in DC vehicles have a modified tipping catch on the backrest so that when the backrest is in the raised (ie being sat-on) position it is more upright than it would be on a SW/USW seat, since there is insufficient clearance behind the seats for the normal level of reclination. Thismeans that although a DC seat could be fitted into an SW, and SW seat will not fit in a DC. The second is that the DC seats are fitted with the brackets which have been the subject of this thread. On my 2007 DC, although I cannot remember if there was one bracket per seat or three (or four) in total, I can remember that each bracket was in two parts. There is one part which bolts to the bulkhead, which is the part shown in the photo above and the part shown in the parts catalogue illustration I posted above, and there is a second smaller part which is bolted to the seatback and which then joins to the bulkhead bracket. This is not shown in any parts listing I can find, appears to be missing in the phots above, and I do not have a picture of one. I do somewhere have all the parts I removed from mine, but finding them would be prohibitively time-consuming, I am afraid. It certainly appears, Grenadier, that your seats had the brackets but that the seat has been disconnected from them, and there is not sign of the bit that should be attached to the seat. If you seats were the original, unmodified, ex-factory seats, I woudl expect them to tip when the tipping lever is operated. The fact that they have clerly been messed with, the brackets have been tampered with, and you say that you can't tip them, suggests to me that they are not the originals, or is they are, they have been altered. Perhaps someone has fitted SW/USW seats and has locked the backrest at a non-standard angle somehow to allow the to be fitted? Perhaps someone has attempted to modify the original seat to be more tilted? There is definitely something that is not standard about your seats, I am afraid. |
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15th Nov 2017 10:53am |
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| hank Member Since: 12 Sep 2016 Location: South Wales Posts: 2307 
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I removed the brackets from my DCPU a few weeks into ownership. Definitely recommend doing so as the space it opens up is so useful...
On inspection I remember it being blatantly obvious what needed removing. This and the fact that your seats rock slightly make me wonder whether your issue may be somewhere else. When the brackets are fitted there is no movement in the seat backs whatsoever |
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15th Nov 2017 12:08pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5859
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I think something dodgy is going on. Any thoughts on how I might find out the original spec? Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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15th Nov 2017 6:32pm |
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| tookaphotoof Member Since: 18 Mar 2013 Location: dordrecht Posts: 1279
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Two seat part of factory standard:
Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge |
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15th Nov 2017 6:36pm |
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| mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6769 
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Is yours an xs from factory? If not someone may have put half leather seats in to replace cloth and not bothered bolting the brackets back on? Ray My build thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html Last edited by mk1collector on 15th Nov 2017 10:50pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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15th Nov 2017 6:51pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5859
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Think you may be right.
Tookaphotoof, thank you for ‘taking a photo of’ (  ) the brackets, will do some digging over the weekend.
Frankly I don’t care if the brackets are there or not. But if they’re not, I’ve no idea how to get the seats to fold so that I can get them out for soundproofing. Could be a right &@5^€%.... Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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15th Nov 2017 6:55pm |
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