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Kit



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United Kingdom 1993 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Scotia Grey
Pic request: 255/85/16 & 285/85/16
Thinking about getting some mud terrains, does anyone run or have good photos of defenders (preferably a 90) running 255/85/16 or 285/85/16? 1993 200 Tdi 90 CSW
1956 Series 1 Hard-top
1958 Series 1 Soft-top
Post #640427 28th Jul 2017 9:47pm
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custom90



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255/85/R16 BFG KM2 MTR

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blackwolf



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You probably mean 285/75, not /85.

Top pic 255/85s on 0 offset Blindos. Second pic 285/75 on Boosts (33mm offset) with 30mm spacers. Be aware that 285s will make your vehicle filthy unless you do something to prevent it (mud comes in through the windows).


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Post #640433 28th Jul 2017 11:04pm
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For a 90 you'll be better off with 265/75 in my opinion
Post #640447 29th Jul 2017 4:58am
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Bows



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Wales 2006 Defender 110 Td5 SW Alpine White

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255/85/16 BF Goodrich km/2 2006 TD5110 station wagon
1995 300Tdi 90 truck cab
1989 90 hard top with 200 tdi
1983 110 hard top
1983 110 Hi cap
1954 107 pick up
Post #640449 29th Jul 2017 5:35am
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Kit



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United Kingdom 1993 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Scotia Grey
blackwolf wrote:
You probably mean 285/75, not /85.


No, im after 285/85/16:


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Bows wrote:

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255/85/16 BF Goodrich km/2


This is exactly the combo im thinking about getting! Thumbs Up how does it ride day to day and would you go 255/85 again? 1993 200 Tdi 90 CSW
1956 Series 1 Hard-top
1958 Series 1 Soft-top
Post #640458 29th Jul 2017 6:35am
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285/85x16 will probably foul the bodywork. I didn't know that that size was even manufactured.

255/85x16 is a good fit and avoids many of the disadvantages of 285/75x16.
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Post #640585 29th Jul 2017 8:21pm
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I love mine. They are amazing off road. Quite noisy on smooth tarmac though ! That is 255 85

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Post #640592 29th Jul 2017 8:37pm
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blackwolf



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Kit wrote:
blackwolf wrote:
You probably mean 285/75, not /85.


No, im after 285/85/16:

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You won't be buying BFG in that case, according to their UK website they don't make them! Your choices are as I said, for Mud Terrains at any rate, either 255/85 or 285/75.
Post #640598 29th Jul 2017 9:28pm
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Bows



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I would always go 255 85 16. They ride really well, and look good too. 2006 TD5110 station wagon
1995 300Tdi 90 truck cab
1989 90 hard top with 200 tdi
1983 110 hard top
1983 110 Hi cap
1954 107 pick up
Post #640630 30th Jul 2017 12:41am
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Arierep



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Portugal 1995 Defender 90 300 Tdi SW Alpine White
255/85R16 on Wolfs with 30mm spacers

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Never noticed any difference day to day vs the previous 235/85R16, acceleration etc feels the same, except the speed now is spot on but the odo under measures.

They are a little taller than 285/75R16, you can see that in person and height is what matters offroad. I'll probably go to 315/75R16 when I get through the current ones, to gain even a little more diameter.

With standard bumpstops (don't compare lift with tyre clearance) they didn't rubbed with Wolfs and no spacers, rubbed a little on the rear arches with Wolfs and spacers and rub a lot with the current 16x8 -25 offset rims (they run so much better with these than with the Wolfs) and 25mm bumpstop spacers. I'm shaving the arches to correct that, little by little to keep them looking as standard as possible.

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285/85R16 on a KM2 pattern os the like would be the holy grail of tyre, IMO. 35" tall with a lot less inconvenience caused by width. Shame that most manufacturers seem to be moving to 75 ratios
Post #640632 30th Jul 2017 2:02am
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Kit



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United Kingdom 1993 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Scotia Grey
blackwolf wrote:
Kit wrote:
blackwolf wrote:
You probably mean 285/75, not /85.


No, im after 285/85/16:

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You won't be buying BFG in that case, according to their UK website they don't make them! Your choices are as I said, for Mud Terrains at any rate, either 255/85 or 285/75.


These are the tyres i'm thinking about buying: https://www.4x4tyres.co.uk/285-85-16-silve...gLV8fD_BwE 1993 200 Tdi 90 CSW
1956 Series 1 Hard-top
1958 Series 1 Soft-top
Post #640690 30th Jul 2017 11:16am
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Kit



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United Kingdom 1993 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Scotia Grey
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With standard bumpstops (don't compare lift with tyre clearance) they didn't rubbed with Wolfs and no spacers, rubbed a little on the rear arches with Wolfs and spacers and rub a lot with the current 16x8 -25 offset rims (they run so much better with these than with the Wolfs) and 25mm bumpstop spacers.


Why did you swap the wolf's?

Thanks for the info btw! 1993 200 Tdi 90 CSW
1956 Series 1 Hard-top
1958 Series 1 Soft-top
Post #640694 30th Jul 2017 12:06pm
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Arierep



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Portugal 1995 Defender 90 300 Tdi SW Alpine White
For me Wolfs are the best looking of them all, and the narrow 6,5" width holds the tyre really well on sand.


But....

- Being that narrow they don't allow for wider tyres, and I don't plan to run anything under 255 in the future. Also, even with the 255s you can really feel the tyre squirm quite badly. They feel much better on the 8J rim

- Not enough offset. It's curious how, in my opinion, the LR community seems to be overly cautions when it comes to bigger offsets, it seems to be a cultural thing. Defender wheel bearings are quite big and strong. In the Japanese 4x4 world big negative offsets are so common, -25mm is called "LandCruiser offset". I've run lots of kms with Wolfs + spacers, resulting in a -10mm offset, 10.000 of those in the Sahara and know guys who did the same on much bigger offsets without problems. A wider track makes the vehicle much more stable and safe, gives more traction and protects the body on narrow woods tracks.

- Wolfs are very heavy. Did you knew a 255/85R16 KM2 on a Wolf rim and spacer weight the same or even more than a 315/75R16 (35") on a generic "modular"?
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