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JOW240725



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey
Scott, the description of your 'wobble' is very different to the one I experienced, so unfortunately does sound more than balancing to me. Hope you get it sorted soon. I have no concerns (nor did insurance company) running high quality hub centric spacers Thumbs Up Improvement in turning circle is worth it alone! James
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rallysteve



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Sorry, the sweeping claims of spacers 'overloading' the hubs is b******s. Nothing but an internet myth that circulates around car forums.

Fitting spacers does indeed increase the bending moment at the wheel bearing but is identical to fitting the same offset of wheel.

Unless you are fitting ridiculous length spacers the worst damage would be increased wear to the wheel bearings. Again though, this will be no different to the fitting wheels of equivalent offset and should not be an issue unless your wheel bearings are already ruined or wrongly setup.

Broken spacers/wheels falling off with spacers is a product of misuse (i.e. overtightenend or undertightened nuts) or poor quality (probably made in china spacers).

Bulldog spacers I believe have a good reputation at least. I used Rakeway ones which are also highly regarded.

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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Lightningtweeds wrote:
Spacers overload the hubs and are only for massaging self-esteem.
Rolling with laughter

Am I allowed to say "cobblers!" on a family forum?
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Stacey007



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So What do people think may cure the wobble.

1) Leave them off..
2) Clean the hub / wheel / try again (they both looked pretty good to me)
3) Panhard Bushes on the front steering arm thingy....
4) Uprated steering damper.


Should something above help? (option 1 is current being Thumbs Up tested and its fine) but I would like the on.
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mk1collector



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mk1collector wrote:
Try the rear spacers on the front and see if you still have a wobble.
 Ray
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mk1collector



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Lightningtweeds wrote:
Spacers overload the hubs and are only for massaging self-esteem.


Well what a lot of drivel! Ray
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L90Andy



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Stacey007 wrote:

4) Uprated steering damper.


Shouldn't need an uprated one. If your current one is knackered a new standard one will feel much better. Instagram: L90andy

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Post #631610 15th Jun 2017 3:21pm
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JOW240725



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Give up on the Puma and just use the Series, wobbles will be the least of your worries! Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter James
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CarlinAbz



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I put 30mm spacers on, changed tyres to 265 and had engine remap all when the vehicle was less than a month old... 20,000 miles later and no issues. There are always doom merchants that tell you horror stories of insurance, warranty and technical woes. Ignore, enjoy and let fate take you on your journey.....
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Thon



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blackwolf wrote:
Lightningtweeds wrote:
Spacers overload the hubs and are only for massaging self-esteem.
Rolling with laughter

Am I allowed to say "cobblers!" on a family forum?

Rolling with laughter
Post #631622 15th Jun 2017 3:58pm
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JOW240725



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I quite like a massage Whistle James
MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html
MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641
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meeerrrk



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I had a wheel wobble. Replaced my steering damper with a bilstien. The factory one was completely shot! The new one felt better, you could feel it doing its job but the wobble was still there.

mine turned out to be a steering swivel bearing failure, it could have been disturbed during some other work? My 90 Project : http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic52774.html
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Lightningtweeds



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The further the rim is from the bearings will increase the leverage/bending/throw, maybe not by a huge amount but the metallurgists on here may know different.
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rallysteve



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Exactly my point above.

No different to modifying the offset of the wheel. Nothing to do with metallurgy, just simple engineering. 02' 110 TD5 Double Cab Rebuild Thread
Post #631631 15th Jun 2017 4:38pm
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Stacey007



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James,


I like the Use the Series option Smile Turn the wheel half a turn and nothing happens in that Thumbs Up it bounces and wobbles around Shocked


Trying the rears on the front is maybe my first option? Thanks


Then a steering damper?
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