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dgardel

Member Since: 30 Nov 2008
Location: Veneto (Heart & Head)
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vinsell wrote:
willy eckerslike wrote:
3 start cycles and the light will come on.

You're right. Light is on.

P1402 and P1409.

When I had a 300tdi Disco I removed egr and its ecu. Do You think it should be possible to convert puma engine into an engine without electronics?

I'm sorry for the stupid question.

Vinicio

Let the light ON and drive with a "clean" intake engine (like me, now my Defender have 61000km, 58000 with egr not connected......) Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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3rd Mar 2011 9:25am

vinsell

Member Since: 06 Feb 2009
Location: Brindisi (Italy)
Posts: 74

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dgardel wrote:
vinsell wrote:
willy eckerslike wrote:
3 start cycles and the light will come on.

You're right. Light is on.

P1402 and P1409.

When I had a 300tdi Disco I removed egr and its ecu. Do You think it should be possible to convert puma engine into an engine without electronics?

I'm sorry for the stupid question.

Vinicio

Let the light ON and drive with a "clean" intake engine (like me, now my Defender have 61000km, 58000 with egr not connected......)

Ciao Daniele,

what about fuel consumption with egr disconnected?

Vinicio

3rd Mar 2011 9:27am

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 5034

2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Scotia Grey

I have a 300 still and its always stuck in my mind.

If i have the 300 (or the old v

in the garage i cant run them as they will choke me...but the 90 can run in the garage (loosely) fine...what does that say about pollutants of new vs old engines.

But the thing that sticks in my mind is this, surely if you do 30mpg in a 3.5v8 or a 5l v8 or a 1l 4c - then you are buring 1gallon per 30 miles? so how can that be worse (or better) regardless of the co2 content... Mike

3rd Mar 2011 9:29am

vinsell

Member Since: 06 Feb 2009
Location: Brindisi (Italy)
Posts: 74

mse wrote:
I have a 300 still and its always stuck in my mind.

If i have the 300 (or the old v in the garage i cant run them as they will choke me...but the 90 can run in the garage (loosely) fine...what does that say about pollutants of new vs old engines.

But the thing that sticks in my mind is this, surely if you do 30mpg in a 3.5v8 or a 5l v8 or a 1l 4c - then you are buring 1gallon per 30 miles? so how can that be worse (or better) regardless of the co2 content...

Here it's the fraud

3rd Mar 2011 9:35am

dgardel

Member Since: 30 Nov 2008
Location: Veneto (Heart & Head)
Posts: 3586

vinsell wrote:
dgardel wrote:
vinsell wrote:
willy eckerslike wrote:
3 start cycles and the light will come on.

You're right. Light is on.

P1402 and P1409.

When I had a 300tdi Disco I removed egr and its ecu. Do You think it should be possible to convert puma engine into an engine without electronics?

I'm sorry for the stupid question.

Vinicio

Let the light ON and drive with a "clean" intake engine (like me, now my Defender have 61000km, 58000 with egr not connected......)

Ciao Daniele,

what about fuel consumption with egr disconnected?

Vinicio

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3rd Mar 2011 10:05am

ralton

Member Since: 04 Feb 2010
Location: Durban
Posts: 153

2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Zermatt Silver

[quote="mse life and death - you take the equipment required to resolve the problem...in an engine with electronics you just add some electronic bits, no different to throwing in a gasket etc.
[/quote]

Mmm, dunno about this - there's a huge difference between "throwing in a gasket" and "throwing in a few modern electronic components".

The complex electronics and engine management are the ONLY reasons why i wouldn't take my Defender up to Angola, Zambia, etc. Sure, easy countries like Botswana and Mozambique yes, but no further North than that.

I understand and appreciate the advantages when you're out in the sticks having fun, but for overlanding in Africa you'd be looking for trouble i reckon..., and (for me) i'd like to explore the possibility of removing some of the very advanced electronics - Africa's a great place to explore (in a super reliable vehicle).

Cheers www.ralton.co.za

3rd Mar 2011 10:49am

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2633

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ralton wrote:
The complex electronics and engine management are the ONLY reasons why i wouldn't take my Defender up to Angola, Zambia, etc. Sure, easy countries like Botswana and Mozambique yes, but no further North than that. I understand and appreciate the advantages when you're out in the sticks having fun, but for overlanding in Africa you'd be looking for trouble i reckon

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3rd Mar 2011 11:04am

Denis

Member Since: 28 Dec 2010
Location: prairie
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2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey

to dgardel:

Daniele, how did you disconnect EGR? Usig blank on engine instead of tube to EGR? May be you have photo?

Cheers

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3rd Mar 2011 3:27pm

dgardel

Member Since: 30 Nov 2008
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Denis wrote:
to dgardel:

Daniele, how did you disconnect EGR? Usig blank on engine instead of tube to EGR? May be you have photo?

Cheers

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3rd Mar 2011 3:30pm

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
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dgardel wrote:
Simply take off the Electrical connector.....

Jah, but now the MIL light is on permanently. If something is going wrong with your engine, how would you know?

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3rd Mar 2011 3:31pm

dgardel

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Actually, every month I check DTC status with my BAS Remap, but stay "on line" because Pete (Bellautoservices) is coming with a "definitive" solution w/o MIL on Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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3rd Mar 2011 3:50pm

Naks

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dgardel wrote:
Actually, every month I check DTC status with my BAS Remap, but stay "on line" because Pete (Bellautoservices) is coming with a "definitive" solution w/o MIL on

Entreq also have one on the way apparently --
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3rd Mar 2011 3:54pm

dgardel

Member Since: 30 Nov 2008
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Naks wrote:
dgardel wrote:
Actually, every month I check DTC status with my BAS Remap, but stay "on line" because Pete (Bellautoservices) is coming with a "definitive" solution w/o MIL on

Entreq also have one on the way apparently

Yes "we" know

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3rd Mar 2011 6:21pm

dgardel

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My goal is run BAS EGR SW killer with entreq mod without MIL ON

soon the results (positive I hope) Discovery 5 td6 HSE Stornoway Gray Outback Engineering Limited Edition

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3rd Mar 2011 6:30pm

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