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Rkcorry

Member Since: 23 Jan 2017
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 227

Gearbox oil..recommendations please.

Evening all, I have just recently had the oil pump replaced on my 2.2 Defender and was hoping to change the gear oil as well.
The gearbox would appear to be slightly overfilled with a red coloured oil in the main gearbox, approx 3.5lt.
An independent garage in my neighbourhood has suggested replacing like for like, as the overfilled box with this slightly more viscous red oil will aid gear change and make for a quieter gearbox.

And suggestion in the above, or indeed which type of oil this is would really be appreciated.

Many thanks in advance....l

30th Mar 2017 8:25pm

Scoobeenut

Member Since: 04 Mar 2015
Location: West London
Posts: 310

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Santorini Black

I would talk to Opie Oils on this forum, I think they are a site sponser and gurus for all things oily 👍

30th Mar 2017 9:48pm

Devon-Rover

Member Since: 22 Jan 2015
Location: South Devon
Posts: 923

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Aintree Green

Although I could be wrong, Red oil suggests that they have put ATF in it

Really the factory spec is a Castrol BOT 130 but many on here including myself have used Castrol Syntrans 75W-90 I got mine from opie oils as linked the refil amount is 2.2 litres although after having the wrong stuff in there I would be inclined to at least once do a drain and refil to flush it out.

30th Mar 2017 10:21pm

MK

Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Santiago
Posts: 2448

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White

GL-4 (not 5) 75W-90. 2.2 l Puma 110" SW

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30th Mar 2017 10:54pm

zsd-puma

Member Since: 09 Aug 2016
Location: Kent
Posts: 2720

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black

Quote:
Red oil suggests that they have put ATF in it Shocked

Although ATF isn't recomended for the MT82, some manual gearboxes do use it, so i don't think it'll do much real harm in the short term

Comma do a gear oil to the right spec too.
http://www.commaoil.com/passenger-vehicles/products/view/550

31st Mar 2017 4:05am

agentmulder

Member Since: 16 Apr 2016
Location: Outer Space
Posts: 1324

Devon-Rover wrote:
Really the factory spec is a Castrol BOT 130 but many on here including myself have used Castrol Syntrans 75W-90

A whiles back I compared the specifications of the syntrans type with the BOT 130 and came out wondering if they were the same thing. Perhaps just a small additive or two difference?

I've been running for the last year on it anyways, works for me

Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants...

31st Mar 2017 5:47am

Rkcorry

Member Since: 23 Jan 2017
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 227

Thanks guys for the prompt replies, The gearbox would appear to be using a Redline MT90 gl4 oil, which on some of the Mustang forums, have mixed reviews.

As suggested , i will check in with the chaps in Opie oils, as this particular oil is on their stock list.

31st Mar 2017 9:55am

Devon-Rover

Member Since: 22 Jan 2015
Location: South Devon
Posts: 923

zsd-puma wrote:
Quote:
Red oil suggests that they have put ATF in it Shocked

Although ATF isn't recomended for the MT82, some manual gearboxes do use it, so i don't think it'll do much real harm in the short term

Comma do a gear oil to the right spec too.
http://www.commaoil.com/passenger-vehicles/products/view/550

It was more the fact that even today a garage is able to put the wrong oil in. Next the OP will be telling us that the garage didn't use a C1 specific oil just any old 5W-30 or even 5W-40 they had on the shelf.

31st Mar 2017 10:18am

vaucluse

Member Since: 04 Feb 2012
Location: SE London
Posts: 185

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Java Black

Just go to a Landrover dealer and buy 3L of the proper Castrol stuff - those puma gearboxes don't like anything else.

Mark

31st Mar 2017 11:44am

Rkcorry

Member Since: 23 Jan 2017
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 227

Thanks again guy, I'm sure the engine oil should be fine after the recent recall on the oil pump. but thanks anyway...

31st Mar 2017 12:45pm

Naks

Member Since: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Stellenbosch, ZA
Posts: 2660

2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White

I replaced the Castrol stuff with the Motul equivalents, based on good feedback from Oz.

Both gearbox & transfer case run more smoothly and not as hot either.

Gearbox: Motul Gear 300 75w90 : http://www.motul.com/za/en/products/oils-l...-300-75w90
Transfer box: Motyl Gear 75w90: http://www.motul.com/za/en/products/oils-l...gear-75w90 --
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31st Mar 2017 12:47pm

WeiB.beer

Member Since: 13 Apr 2016
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 58

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 Heritage Edition SW Grasmere Green

Naks, is there any reason you opted for semi-synthetic for the transfer case when you went for fully synthetic in the gearbox?

I only ask because I have just bought Motul Gear 300 for both gearbox and transfer case and just want to make sure I wasn't about to make a mistake! 2015 110 Defender Heritage Utility Station Wagon
2014 B8 Audi RS4
2003 Audi A2 1.4 Tdi

31st Mar 2017 1:26pm

MR_JAMES

Member Since: 10 Oct 2013
Location: ESSEX
Posts: 249

2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

I was doing some homework on stiff gearchanges in a cold box and theres a ford service bulletin about replacing the fluid to something called dual clutch fluid.

maybe that's what you've got?

read --

http://mustangsdaily.com/blog/wp-content/u...-03-18.pdf 1953 80"
1987 mini city e
2011 90"

2nd Apr 2017 8:21pm

ChrisWoods

Member Since: 29 Dec 2016
Location: Spreyton
Posts: 164

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Aintree Green

Devon 4x4 put ATF in my MT82 box. Better on the syncos apparently. Feels fine to me. Think its Fuchs Titan ATF 4000..... 2009 2.4TDCi XS Utility Wagon.

2nd Apr 2017 8:31pm

agentmulder

Member Since: 16 Apr 2016
Location: Outer Space
Posts: 1324

I recall discussion about some material in the MT82 not liking standard oils and degrading over time.

i.e. what might feel fine might not be best over time... Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants...

2nd Apr 2017 9:12pm

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