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blackwolf



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Re: I have always had my doubts on Nicola Sturgeon’s rationa
gilarion wrote:
I have always had my doubts on Nicola Sturgeon’s rationality …


Never had any doubts at all, myself; I made up my mind long ago. I' d nominate her for the first commercial trip to the moon but with a single ticket, not return. I could suggest a number of similarly worthy people to keep her company.

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SNP both Nationalist and Socialist wit a populist leader. Didn't that end badly last time it was given control of a country? Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
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discomog wrote:
The figures published in 2014 prior to the referendum showed that Scotland exports £50bn to the rest of the UK and only £21b n to the rest of the world. I don't know how much they export to EU but would hazard a guess at less than £12bn. Would the EU want another small economic state, that is what Sturgeon needs to ask herself, they have enough on their hands with Greece and possibly Spain.

I believe the Scottish people want devolution but they don't want separation.

It seems to me that Nicola Sturgeon should look at the two referenda results, Scottish Independence and Brexit and ask herself do I want to lose a third on the trot.



If Scotland currently export £50Bn to rUK, why would that change with Independence?


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The sooner Scotland votes for independence (for England) the better.

I'm fed up with the tail constantly trying to wag the dog.

I no longer need to know the Scottish football results, their weather forecast or how much everything that is wrong in Scotland is the fault of the English.

I used to feel British but now I consider myself English.

We need to look forwards, rather than hang on grimly to the past, whilst constantly begging the Scots not to leave.

Sorry, but I've had enough of it.......



Scotland was told the only way to stay in the EU was to vote No to independence. Look how that turned out

Scotland was told that a No vote would bring a whole range of new powers for the Scottish Gov... Now we have control of our road signs

We now have deep and constant cuts to the Scottish budget

Is it any wonder Scotland is Censored off...
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There's an interesting article about Sturgeon's "Ill Judged Strategy" on www.brexitcentral.com
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Currently all that's gonna happen is she's gonna ask for permission, which the only affect from that is uncertainty for the future (exactly the same as brexit). And as with brexit no one knows what that will bring until it's all done.

Listening to look Scotland this morning they were commenting about an employment survey in Scotland and there is a reluctance for companies in Scotland for a lot of sectors to increase their workforce due to the uncertancy. Russell
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But that survey would have been conducted BEFORE the 2nd independence referendum was announced.

Also in the report, it was stated the uncertainty came from Brexit Thumbs Up
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Tell me if im wrong, but dont you as a country have to pay a certain fee or sum to get into the the EU - a sum the scots cant affiord to pay. So if they cant affird to join the EU, what are theyre options? I heard they want to keep the pound even if they left the union.....
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Disco_Mikey wrote:
discomog wrote:
The figures published in 2014 prior to the referendum showed that Scotland exports £50bn to the rest of the UK and only £21b n to the rest of the world. I don't know how much they export to EU but would hazard a guess at less than £12bn. Would the EU want another small economic state, that is what Sturgeon needs to ask herself, they have enough on their hands with Greece and possibly Spain.

I believe the Scottish people want devolution but they don't want separation.

It seems to me that Nicola Sturgeon should look at the two referenda results, Scottish Independence and Brexit and ask herself do I want to lose a third on the trot.



If Scotland currently export £50Bn to rUK, why would that change with Independence?


Slideywindows wrote:
The sooner Scotland votes for independence (for England) the better.

I'm fed up with the tail constantly trying to wag the dog.

I no longer need to know the Scottish football results, their weather forecast or how much everything that is wrong in Scotland is the fault of the English.

I used to feel British but now I consider myself English.

We need to look forwards, rather than hang on grimly to the past, whilst constantly begging the Scots not to leave.

Sorry, but I've had enough of it.......



Scotland was told the only way to stay in the EU was to vote No to independence. Look how that turned out

Scotland was told that a No vote would bring a whole range of new powers for the Scottish Gov... Now we have control of our road signs

We now have deep and constant cuts to the Scottish budget

Is it any wonder Scotland is Censored off...


I think this is the problem I have with Scotland. The rest of the U.K. are trying to do what's best for the uk, but Scotland are trying to do what's best for Scotland Rolling Eyes Ray
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Because Scotland are constantly shafted by WM
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After Scottish Independence, EU membership will be essential for Scotland. Otherwise they'll have nobody to blame for every minor thing that goes wrong. Heaven forbid the Scots take any personal responsibility.
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Disco_Mikey wrote:
Because Scotland are constantly shafted by WM


That's just a load of rubbish! Scotland just expect to get more than everyone else in the uk Ray
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Disco_Mikey wrote:
Because the UK are constantly shafted by WM


Edited to reflect a balanced view!
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DM

It may have been conducted before the announcement but it's only attributed to brexit as the announcement handent been made. Which doesn't mean that there will be more or less uncertainty. Russell
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I would suggest that we as the UK voted on whether to stay in the E.U. or not, we did not vote as four different Countries.
It is the U.K. that joined the E.U. not four different Countries. The sooner the Northern Irish, Scots and Welsh leaders realise this and help to do what's is best for the U.K. the better.

On the other hand all those that oppose Brexit can move to Scotland and play happy families with S.N.P. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
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I would suggest that we as the UK voted on whether to stay in the E.U. or not, we did not vote as four different Countries.
It is the U.K. that joined the E.U. not four different Countries. The sooner the Northern Irish, Scots and Welsh leaders realise this and help to do what's is best for the U.K. the better.

On the other hand all those that oppose Brexit can move to Scotland and play happy families with S.N.P. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
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