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Daniel TD5



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poor cold starting
hi any idears

very poor runing after cold starts from being left over night

it now stalling and finding it very hard to run with some blue smoke out the back when its very cold won't sit at idie. then fine when warmed up

dan
Post #5959 6th Jan 2009 9:30am
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Grockle



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Could be overfueling,there so fickle with all the electronics on these things 2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up.
Post #5961 6th Jan 2009 10:19am
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The Boy



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Could be PSJ issue though I hope not.
Post #5963 6th Jan 2009 10:30am
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mse



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could it be something simple - glow plugs or a fuel problem

mine sits out every night and several days without starting and works first time Mike
Post #5965 6th Jan 2009 11:12am
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Daniel TD5



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what the PSJ issue


its been every morning since its been cold. it is tapping but i am sure its the fact its not running right
emailed the dealer its had a top half engine so far maybe its need a matching bottom Rolling with laughter


Dan
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The Boy



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Sorry should have read PCJ's

Piston cooling jets lock into zero flow when cold and no oil gets to the lower parts of the bores (or something like that) once warm they unlock and operate correctly. Only affects early 2007 modles and only cure is to replace engine. There is a GTR out and it is posted here somewhere.
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AndrewS



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Thumbs Up Mine is having a new engine Thumbs Up well as soon as I can get it back off site Rolling Eyes
Post #5999 7th Jan 2009 10:06am
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The Boy



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AndrewS wrote:
Thumbs Up Mine is having a new engine Thumbs Up well as soon as I can get it back off site Rolling Eyes



Because of the PCJ issue or something else? As your is, I think, the same age as mine I am keen to know. as you know I have been trying to get a new engine out of them for a while now but they won't play.
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AndrewS



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The Boy wrote:
AndrewS wrote:
Thumbs Up Mine is having a new engine Thumbs Up well as soon as I can get it back off site Rolling Eyes



Because of the PCJ issue or something else? As your is, I think, the same age as mine I am keen to know. as you know I have been trying to get a new engine out of them for a while now but they won't play.


Yep because of the early engine rough start problem I presume its the PCJ issue. I simply printed out the GTR that Miserableolgit posted Bow down Bow down here http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic472.ht...ace+engine walked into the dealer threw it at the nice warranty man he emailed LR and got the reply 'Do as described on the GTR'

Question Who is your dealer?
Post #6002 7th Jan 2009 10:25am
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The Boy



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AndrewS wrote:
The Boy wrote:
AndrewS wrote:
Thumbs Up Mine is having a new engine Thumbs Up well as soon as I can get it back off site Rolling Eyes



Because of the PCJ issue or something else? As your is, I think, the same age as mine I am keen to know. as you know I have been trying to get a new engine out of them for a while now but they won't play.


Yep because of the early engine rough start problem I presume its the PCJ issue. I simply printed out the GTR that Miserableolgit posted Bow down Bow down here http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic472.ht...ace+engine walked into the dealer threw it at the nice warranty man he emailed LR and got the reply 'Do as described on the GTR'

Question Who is your dealer?



Oh my god!!!! I did that and they thew it out!!!! I am ringing the dealers again now!!!!
Post #6003 7th Jan 2009 10:29am
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Grockle



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boy trry another dealer,they all get paid for the warranty work if they sold you the truck or not,good luck. 2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up.
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The Boy



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Grockle wrote:
boy trry another dealer,they all get paid for the warranty work if they sold you the truck or not,good luck.



I have jsut been on the phone to the manager and he has asked me to fax over the GTR as well as details as to what Andrews 110 was doing and what he said to his dealers to get the engine. He seems pretty helpful.


Andrew are you ok with this? I wont mention your name or anything. PM if you have issues. I am desparate here!!!
Post #6005 7th Jan 2009 10:48am
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AndrewS



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You have a pm Well will have when I send it Thumbs Up
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The Boy



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AndrewS wrote:
You have a pm Well will have when I send it Thumbs Up



OK Andrew, thanks
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fekete



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Hi guys mine is a 7a732686 the 4/07 not noticed any knocking on mine.But a bit worrying what im hearing.Im keen to know am i warranted a new engine because of this fault. Bow down
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