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dudley472



Member Since: 15 Nov 2012
Location: wolverhampton
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Keswick Green
odd brake issue
I have a 2014 defender 90, I've had this happen a couple of times and its a bit strange, brakes binding, not full on binding but slight bind and squeal on all 4 wheels, it seems the same on all 4 wheels, pressing the pedal and the brakes operate but clearly aren't releasing properly, pressing the pedal however many time you like has no effect on how much they seem to be binding, but turn off the ignition then back on again and the problem stops, any ideas as to what this can be ?
Post #587654 26th Dec 2016 11:21am
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gazman



Member Since: 17 Aug 2015
Location: Liverpool
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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 90 Td5 HT Alpine White
is your brake fluid level correct? I had brake pads replaced back in the 90's and when they pushed the pistons back they never took out the excess brake fluid. It gave it nowhere to expand too and they would drag.
That's when I started to learn how to fix them myself 2014 - current ..... 2003 defender td5 90 (my car)
2009 - current .... 2005 zx10r
Post #587664 26th Dec 2016 12:28pm
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dudley472



Member Since: 15 Nov 2012
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Keswick Green
yeah the fluid is fine, only done it a couple of times, its the ignition on /off thing curing it that has me stumped
Post #587708 26th Dec 2016 3:36pm
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dorsetsmith



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ABS fitted ?
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dudley472



Member Since: 15 Nov 2012
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Keswick Green
yes mate, abs
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dorsetsmith



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Ignition on /off thing curing it do you stop engine or is it still running ?
Post #587757 26th Dec 2016 6:07pm
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Rickydodah



Member Since: 14 Jul 2014
Location: East Sussex
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Brake servo issue possibly, if they start to fail internally it can cause the actuator rod to press on the master cylinder piston. Confused I started with nothing and still have most of it left!
Post #587760 26th Dec 2016 6:18pm
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dudley472



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Keswick Green
I stop the engine wait a few seconds turn it back on and it's cured, it's under warranty but wondered if anyone has seen this before, it can go for ages and not do it, the dealer could have it for weeks and it could be fine
Post #587765 26th Dec 2016 6:26pm
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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
Once problem has been fixed by turning if engine presumably it reoccurs after first use of breaks again? Everytime? Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #587809 26th Dec 2016 8:21pm
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nidge n



Member Since: 04 Feb 2012
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Interesting topic, i have an intermittent squeak on my 110. Checked the brakes for wear, no issue. but my girl suffers from an odd squeak and irregular times. No issues with efficiency.

next step, Im going to check the hand brake.
Post #587836 26th Dec 2016 9:48pm
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dudley472



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Keswick Green
No James, this is a random issue, most of the time its absolutely fine, just seems to happen as and when it feels like it, its under warranty but if I take it to the dealers and it doesn't do it what can they do in all fairness I just wondered if anyone else had had this, when its happening I've stopped and all the discs are warm to the touch all feel about the same temperature
Post #588472 29th Dec 2016 5:41pm
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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
if its all four then its not wheel station related which means further up the system.

the only thing engine related is the vacuum for the servo

pedal returns to normal height? Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
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ARC99



Member Since: 19 Feb 2013
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Cairns Blue
I had a similar problem when I changed the front pads and retaining pins etc. on the front wheels . It took me a while to find out that the pads were sticking on the pins when warm and not moving back with the pistons. I just applied a very small amount of anti squeal paste into the holes which sorted it out. Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
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jst



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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
i was thinking of warn pins holding pads in or similar but then thought could that be all four at once? Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
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dudley472



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Keswick Green
Doubt it James, its only done 18k, its all a bit strange, not happened since
Post #591501 9th Jan 2017 8:55am
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