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| Vogler Member Since: 02 Nov 2014 Location: Brussels Posts: 309   
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- It's a 1/2" socket
- Unfortunately I don't remember where the bolt is located, I think it is at the right hand side in the corner of the round motor and the square contacts housing. But you'll undoubtedly find out which one it is 
- The socket has a diameter of almost 22mm J |
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12th Sep 2016 9:32pm |
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| Screbble Member Since: 26 Apr 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2098  
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Although I didn't have time to take the starter off today, I thought I'd have a look for the infamous 15mm nut.
I was surprised that I could see it quite well from above and it wasn't too difficult to undo with some guidance from Vogler 
So I've taken it off, mindful of the earlier posts about two bolts being enough, and it'll hopefully give me a head start when I come to replace the plunger and contacts (which have arrived).  Click image to enlarge I will replace the nut when the fun is over |
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17th Sep 2016 8:44pm |
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| Vogler Member Since: 02 Nov 2014 Location: Brussels Posts: 309
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Nice to read that went smoothly. I used the same supplier for the replacement parts, but preferred to re-use some of the original parts. Especially the original black plastic ones seemed a bit smoother and more precise. In the photo that you reposted in your question you can also see that there's a ring missing in the new parts (left of the starter). Until now no complaints though, the starter works flawlessly until now.
greetings, Joris |
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18th Sep 2016 6:29pm |
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| Screbble Member Since: 26 Apr 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2098
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So instead of talking about it, I actually spent a couple of hours replacing the solenoid plunger and contacts yesterday morning.
It all went well. The hardest part (apart from the infamous nut which I removed a fortnight ago) was fighting with the plastic under tray. I won. The starter itself wasn't as heavy as I expected, and it came out underneath quite easily. I have to say that my eyes aren't coping well and it was glasses on/off/on which was annoying 
I wouldn't have been inclined to do it without the help and photos on this forum so I shall add a few pics in the hope it may make life easier for others. Then I went on to upgrade the 3 turbo hoses to silicon rather than stare at them on the workbench 
Not a bad mornings work in my book. Allowed me the rest of the day to get on with the flipping decorating...... Pics to follow as struggling with mobile device! |
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23rd Oct 2016 7:44am |
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| Screbble Member Since: 26 Apr 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2098
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As promised, some photos which may help others. Definitely worth a tenner or so and a couple of hours work.
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23rd Oct 2016 5:11pm |
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| Screbble Member Since: 26 Apr 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2098
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As alluded to above, and as the starter solenoid job went so well, and apologies for straying off topic, I upgraded the turbo hoses to DPH silicon. Not a bad mornings work
Back on thread, I can't believe how quickly the solenoid contacts deteriorated over the space of a few weeks. About a month ago it started to 'click' about every 1 in 10 starts. It was fine before that, never missed a beat. By week 3 it was failing at a rate of about 8 in 10. So my advice is if you start to experience the issue, get yourself the repair kit and plan to get it done within a few weeks. |
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23rd Oct 2016 5:21pm |
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| Motoberg Member Since: 01 Oct 2015 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 104
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and the motion picture......
https://youtu.be/LoVFMnpf5qQ |
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26th Oct 2016 5:04am |
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| Screbble Member Since: 26 Apr 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2098
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Good find Motoberg
Really helpful and I wish I'd seen it beforehand. My contacts were clearly in a far worse state than those on the film - it's a wonder it started at all! First time, every time now |
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26th Oct 2016 8:25pm |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1763 
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When I got round to doing mine (the second time, after tweaking the angle and cleaning it up the first time), one contact was practically copper foil
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26th Oct 2016 8:31pm |
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| Screbble Member Since: 26 Apr 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 2098
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Amazing isn't it.
I would have thought they'd wear evenly but clearly not. It's good to know that for a tenner and a couple of hours graft you can bring it back to 'new' spec. Of course that's just the solenoid, but most of the information I've read seems to point to the actual starter being quite robust. With mine generally being a weekend truck, I should get a few years out of this repair |
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26th Oct 2016 8:39pm |
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| Defender marto Member Since: 14 Mar 2016 Location: Wirral Posts: 128 
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Good write up this thread, now I know what is involved and to am hoping the dreaded nut of doom is not there but I have a endospcope thingy which my help me locate the socket. Unfortunately mine is not solenoid mine has gone all scratchy sounding when engaging and then you can hear it wind down. So maybe a bearing is going. I have ordered a cheaply one from euro car parts in the hope my old one is repairable then I have a good one in hand, Well here's to hoping.
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23rd Apr 2017 7:52am |
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| lynx Member Since: 20 Jul 2012 Location: coventry Posts: 12
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Good write up did mine disco td5 2 year's ago on my back in the snow dam thing decided to pack up altogether got kit from above repairkitsuk only nightmare was the 15 mm nut ( did'nt go back on ) took longer to get tool's and stand's out than do the job been fine since but whilst the starter was out I stripped it and cleaned everything with contact cleaner amazing how much muck came out
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23rd Apr 2017 12:20pm |
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| MadTom Member Since: 10 Sep 2013 Location: Olomouc Posts: 618  
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Just a small info - I have just bought 15mm 1/4" nut from Ebay. Normally they are only up to 14mm. It is a bit easier with 1/4" ratchet than with 3/8". "Drobek" = The Small One - Discovery 2, "Blufínek" = The Blue Thing - Defender 130, and for me at least Ford Mondeo
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24th Apr 2017 7:22am |
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| pme Member Since: 06 Jan 2016 Location: cambridge and mainly ariege Posts: 49 
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FYI
Just spent two miserable hours in 100% humidity taking the starter off, my defender is april 2007, the bolts are both 13mm, so trying to remove the "top 15mm bolt" was a failure. Fuel pipe bracket 10mm nut, main battery feed 13mm and start wire 10mm Its is the original landrover stamped bosch unit. about 70,000 miles. Its odd why bolt head sizes get changed, did the early ones fail? |
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