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DefenderOfTheEarth



Member Since: 09 Nov 2010
Location: Cornwall, UK
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
My wife's grandparents have a very basic spec 90 SW (late 2009) - park it next to our 110 and it looks pretty "raw" with steels, no aircon grille, etc. Still nice though - Stornoway Grey looks good on it.

Funny about "gadgets" - I have always resisted most of them until the last possible moment, Then I end up getting used to them and like them - our "basic" spec 335d has auto lights, wipers, cruise, brake assist and loads of other gizmos and I really like them. The same with the Landy - heated seats are superb, aircon works well, TC has helped me out once or twice and the electric windows are handy. Defender 110XS SW gone... now VW California 180 4 Motion.
Post #56670 4th Feb 2011 10:11am
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Setok



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Zagato, I'm with you on this one, although to a different degree. If i could ever afford a new Defender (they're double the price in Finland), I'd want one with wind-down windows. I never really felt much need for electric gizmos there. It's not as if winding down manually is particularly difficult! Plus I really hate it that I can't wind a window down without ignition on — plus there's always the risk of being in an accident and then not being able to open the windows.

I'm not particular on ABS either (remember I drive a Caterham 7). We tested this on a simulated icy track in Finland, for our driving tuition, and the quickest way to stop a car is manually. Not by pumping, mind you, but buy gently feathering the brake just before it is about to slip (actually friction is highest at that point). Of course the trouble is in a nasty situation your reflexes might get the better of you and you floor the brakes.

The TC is actually nice as it's a proper offroad tuned version, unlike on some cars where you actually have to turn TC off to drive up a snowy hill! However a manual lock would be even better.

Summers in Finland are surprisingly hot and sticky, so I think I might appreciate the AC, though. Especially as Land Rover removed the vents Evil or Very Mad
Post #56675 4th Feb 2011 10:36am
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
I am old school (or just old!) and I do have a problem with ABS - whenever it kicks in I instinctively release the brake pedal and reapply just as I would if the brakes had locked up! Old habits die hard!

My County DC doesn't have aircon, ABS or TC because I wanted a more rugged, simple and maintainable vehcicle, and I don't really miss them at all. If I want to haul the engine out, I can do so without having to get the refrigerant drained and refilled afterwards. There are no wheel sensors to fail and trigger warning lights (the only recurring fault I have had on my Disco 2 in 200,000 miles).

Plus in snow I can stop quicker than an ABS equipped vehicle.

I don't really have an issue with the electric front windows, and at least they stay shut unlike the manual rears (an elastic band from the inside door handle to the winder handle cures the self-opening rears, but it shouldn't be necessary on a £30k car really), but hey it's a Landrover and we love 'em all the same.

The only things I would like and will fit when I get round to it are a heated windscreen and heated exterior mirrors (I have a solid canopy and no view through the back). The other thing I would like is a heater which gives out a predictable and stable air temperature, but since there is no such thing for a Defender yet I will settle for one that gives out heat, even if it does make a furnace seem cold by comparison.
Post #56680 4th Feb 2011 10:55am
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cinstone



Member Since: 29 Nov 2010
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England 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Keswick Green
Zagato, if you go for one without A/C you should get the air vents in the bulkhead.

Chris.
Post #57118 6th Feb 2011 1:18pm
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JSG



Member Since: 12 Jul 2007
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
cinstone wrote:
Zagato, if you go for one without A/C you should get the air vents in the bulkhead.

Chris.


Not so I'm afraid. The bulkhead vents dissapeared with the introduction of the Puma and the new dashboard. John

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2011 Tdci 110 CSW XS
Post #57124 6th Feb 2011 1:45pm
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