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Jukathy Member Since: 25 Jan 2015 Location: Berlin Posts: 170 |
Loose heat sheeld also possible |
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15th Aug 2016 5:47pm |
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blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17443 |
Be a little careful with this strategy since when the springs finally fall out the collateral damage can increase the bill significantly. When I bought my 2007 DC in 2010 it had 58k on the clock and was on driven plate number 2. I replaced that almost immediately as it was rattling badly, and number 3 lasted to 150k miles. Number 4 is still in and not yet rattling, and the vehicle is now just approaching 200k miles. I may drop the box soon to check the clutch and the output adaptor shaft splines even though neither is showing signs of problems yet. The infamous shaft coupling is the original, greased thoroughly at 150k miles, at which time it was in better condition than the brand new spare I bought just in case. |
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15th Aug 2016 6:40pm |
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milesr3 Member Since: 12 Feb 2013 Location: Suffolk Posts: 873 |
It's a shame there isn't someone nearby with hands-on experience of dropping the box (other than the LR dealership) because I would always opt for some preventative maintenance over sitting on the side of the road. I am going to get it serviced by a local Indy later in the year and will see what they know of Puma clutches. I wasn't aware that the springs can fall out, but doubt (hope) that mine is not too bad just yet as is it does only seem to rattle very occasionally. I would have thought that if the springs were worn that it would rattle all the time, but maybe they are spinning or moving around in some other way that makes the rattle come and go.
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16th Aug 2016 8:46am |
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Galyman Member Since: 20 Jan 2016 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 92 |
Started driving the 110 again today after bouncing it over the Pyrenees and the rattling has definitely not as noticeable but I am under no illusions that the clutch is on it's way out. Will need to take a call on what to do and as previously suggested, I will see if there are any other LR dealers who will look at it more sympathetically under warranty. Trouble is they are few and far between in Scotland so next nearest is in Kelso. Not sure if anyone has had any dealings so any comments appreciated.
Are there any alternatives to the LR made clutch that is likely to be more reliable? |
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16th Aug 2016 6:42pm |
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LR90XS2011 Member Since: 05 Apr 2011 Location: bickenhill Posts: 3643 |
irb have an upgraded one DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,
I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy |
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16th Aug 2016 7:41pm |
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Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2645 |
only IRB? any other aftermarket that can outlast the OEM one?
thanks -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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17th Aug 2016 9:48am |
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JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7906 |
I believe IRB clutch is from Truckfix?
According to FB today TMD are going to test various clutches from Truckfix James MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641 MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557 Instagram @suffolk_rovers |
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17th Aug 2016 10:48am |
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milesr3 Member Since: 12 Feb 2013 Location: Suffolk Posts: 873 |
Do we know if TMD or anyone else who has put some thought into this is going to offer a clutch swap service? I would prefer a day-trip to someone with plenty of hands-on experience of what to look for, what to replace & which parts to use to working it out myself with a local garage.
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17th Aug 2016 2:26pm |
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JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7906 |
IRB certainly do and I would imagine TMD will. IRB would be the man for me, but I understand (like most) he is very busy and not always easy to get hold of. James
MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641 MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557 Instagram @suffolk_rovers |
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17th Aug 2016 2:43pm |
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Galyman Member Since: 20 Jan 2016 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 92 |
Hi all, not sure if anyone will see this however, I eventually put the 110 into Llloyd LR of Kelso to take a look as coming up to end of extended warranty. Same story as Pentland in that they could only tell if it was covered under warranty but stripping the clutch but fortunately, one of the springs was broken so all covered under warranty. They also suggested changing the master slave cylinder which was not covered but still saved me the best part of £1100.
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29th Dec 2016 3:46pm |
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familymad Member Since: 13 Dec 2011 Location: Bucks Posts: 3481 |
I am in the same position with my 130. Rattling at idle but they won't cover the investigation.....
The clutch has been getting heavier too. Is that a sign? 1951 80" S1 2.0 1995 110 300TDI 1995 90 300TDI |
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3rd Jan 2017 1:48pm |
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Morepower Member Since: 08 Jan 2013 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 630 |
Sounds like it to me... Mine did the same before I had it replaced... I asked for the Sachs clutch as it seems to be the one to go for... So far so good..
Regards Tim It doesn't matter how bad it is, It can always get worse... 2013 Bowler 110 (Sold) 2016 Bowler 90 Rally Spec (Sold) |
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3rd Jan 2017 2:04pm |
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Galyman Member Since: 20 Jan 2016 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 92 |
Familymad
I left the rattling at idle for about 4 months before putting it into the garage. It never got any worse but not sure if leaving it that long contributed to the clutch spring eventually breaking i.e. if I had put it in as soon as the rattling started it may not have been covered under warranty. I think it is down to chance as to whether the warranty covers it or not. It is an expensive gamble though. the garage I took it into said they had a similar case the week before where it was not covered under warranty. Kenny |
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5th Jan 2017 8:41pm |
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NormanD Member Since: 12 Aug 2011 Location: Bristol Posts: 286 |
8275 miles, rattling on tick-over, sorted by warranty, no question of trying not to sort it. Now at 9000+ seems to be ok, bt i'll keep listening NormanD WE191
2015 110 XS Utility 2014 VW Caravelle 180 Executive |
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5th Jan 2017 9:00pm |
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