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Glynparry25



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fordy103 wrote:
also, got snotty remarks at james edwards, when i turned up in mine to complain about a rattly dashboard, and the service guy kept questioning me why i had a snorkel etc etc. On another note, has anybody found a way of making the ECU watertight in a puma yet? sealed both my seat boxes today when i fitted my winch, but wasnt really liking the ecu placement


I wouldn't worry too much about the ECU, I have had mine soaaked with spray from hours and hours of driving across Europe the motorway in the rain and floods and never had any problems.

Glyn Sheep
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fordy103



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just to clarify the ecu is mounted at the top of the bulkhead behind the engine?
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Glynparry25



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fordy103 wrote:
just to clarify the ecu is mounted at the top of the bulkhead behind the engine?


YEP Thumbs Up

Glyn Sheep
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SteveS



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On a personal note when you do any decent wading there is a small chance you may get in a few inches deeper than you expect (having walked the route with a stick first of course Laughing ) and for the sake of a couple of quid of plastic pipe which, if you have gone to the trouble of paying over £100 for a snorkel, is easily run up the thing - gives you peace of mind. You can never really be sure where the bow wave is going in the engine compartment, and you'll never know if you taken water into the oil - until you come to drain it in 20 - 30,000Km

Couple of thoughts - check air tightness of snorkel by covering it up and stalling the engine, and; if you have ARB lockers with externally fitted compressor then you may want to fit a pipe to the compressor inlet too.
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Naks



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SteveS wrote:
check air tightness of snorkel by covering it up and stalling the engine,


Difficult on a Puma, no?
Post #55012 25th Jan 2011 8:32pm
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nakatanenga



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On a Td5 you can stall the engine by putting the hand on the snorkel, done this a lot of times while testing airtightness on fresh installed snorkels....

...on the first Puma it nearly broke my hand! WANTED:

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nakatanenga wrote:
On a Td5 you can stall the engine by putting the hand on the snorkel, done this a lot of times while testing airtightness on fresh installed snorkels.... ...on the first Puma it nearly broke my hand!


How do u make a snorkel airtight?
Post #55016 25th Jan 2011 8:44pm
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mse



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Remember even if you go deeper than the top of the bonnet the water underneath remains much lower unless you stop (yes there is splashing)

Personally I don't think beyond the height point in the bonnet...never had any other need in any other LR Mike
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nakatanenga



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we produce 3 different types of 100% waterproof snorkels. 1 each Tdi, Td5 or Puma.

A standard LR or Mantec snorkel is hard to get airtight but with a lot of silicone and GAFFA Tape do a pretty good job. WANTED:

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alantd



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AndrewS did a post on how to seal the Mantec snorkel.

Basically as nakatanenga said - lots of sealant and gaffa Thumbs Up

If you want to do a really thorough job, you need to take the pipework out from the airbox to the snorkel and replace it. If you look at the D4x4 forum, they're doing a post (referenced here somewhere too) on a no-holds barred expedition upgrade on a Defender. They fit a Mantec but properly seal it. One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
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mse



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For a proper snorkel - its safari all the way Mike
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SteveS



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Yep Safari for me too.

BTW - I get the point made by Mike that the bow wave under the bonnet should produce a lower wave than the front of the car BUT - what if you have to stop or reverse out, you can't keep a constant speed or you hit a large underwater object that slows you down? £10 of plastic pipe and a Saturady morning means that I can choose to go across a ford (ie not a nice tarmac'd road) with some confidence in the knowledge that the only thing saving my diff/gearbox from getting water in it is forward speed and luck.

At the end of the day we all make choices - and some of them are personal - so can't argue with that - based on intended use. Me, well I may go slighly over the top in some areas - but where I'm planning to go there is no AA
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SteveS wrote:
Yep Safari for me too.

BTW - I get the point made by Mike that the bow wave under the bonnet should produce a lower wave than the front of the car BUT - what if you have to stop or reverse out, you can't keep a constant speed or you hit a large underwater object that slows you down? £10 of plastic pipe and a Saturady morning means that I can choose to go across a ford (ie not a nice tarmac'd road) with some confidence in the knowledge that the only thing saving my diff/gearbox from getting water in it is forward speed and luck.

At the end of the day we all make choices - and some of them are personal - so can't argue with that - based on intended use. Me, well I may go slighly over the top in some areas - but where I'm planning to go there is no AA


Norfolk? Laughing
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JSG



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You can ford a Puma without a snorkel - just can be a bit 'brown trouserish' Shocked

Engine was fine but the carpets were sodden Rolling with laughter


Click image to enlarge John

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Great photo Thumbs Up Simon
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