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mees



Member Since: 04 Mar 2011
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Netherlands 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
output shaft replacement. Change the clutch as well?
Need to replace the output shaft as it is wearing out. Red dust is coming out of the hole of the transfer case.
As the transfer box needs to be removed, would it be advisable to change the clutch at the same time?
truck has done 53000 km from 2011.
what would be the advise taking the life span of the clutch into account?
Post #516398 21st Mar 2016 12:41pm
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Cupboard



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey
I had the shaft done when I had my clutch done, but you don't have to by any means. It's perfectly possible to do one without the other. I did them both together so I knew it was all good down there and it saved a bit of work over having them done separately.
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mees



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Netherlands 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
yes the other way around is easier to decide Smile

how much work is it extra to do the clutch as well?
Post #516436 21st Mar 2016 3:11pm
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Shax



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England 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Most of the hard bits are already done taking the transfer box off..
The three bolts on top of the GB are the awkward sodz.. You'll need a long extension bar, and a jack to lower the GB to give access to them.. With the TB off, you can sit under the car and look along the GB.. Do them first!!
While you are at it, you may as well change the release bearing / cylinder as well..

With the shaft kit, make sure you don't nick the oil seal when you install it.. Or it'll leak like a tramp after twelve pints! ... ,-------,
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Post #516582 21st Mar 2016 8:47pm
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jst



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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
I dropped gbox and tbox together and did two at same time slave and the restrictor valve also changed, but that was at 55k miles. At your distance I would just drop t box change coupling and leave rest. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #516676 22nd Mar 2016 7:02am
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rover



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Heard people say its lack of grease that causes the shaft to wear. Is it possible and/or beneficial to try and squirt some lubricant of some sort in there.
Post #516766 22nd Mar 2016 1:43pm
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mees



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Netherlands 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
ok many thanks for the replies
Post #516785 22nd Mar 2016 2:44pm
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Way of life



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Canada 1985 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Santorini Black
Hello about to change my MT82 out of my 2007 for a 2015 take out.
All the new gear will be going in. How much time will it take me and a friend who works on Fords to take it out and reinstall the LT230 and bolt it back in, just a idea, we will drink beer after.
Thanks
Post #516922 22nd Mar 2016 10:23pm
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jst



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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
gbox out and swap t box on the end of it, 4hrs for two of you on puma Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #517440 24th Mar 2016 5:09pm
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familymad



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 2016 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black
Trying to work out the extra labour on the clutch job over just the output shaft. Any rough idea? Mine is on the ramps this week for output shaft and might consider asking for he clutch to be done too. 1951 80" S1 2.0
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Post #540552 15th Jun 2016 8:06pm
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nitram17



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dont you need special tools to change the shaft!or are there workarounds to all of them?anybody got a how to!
Post #540592 15th Jun 2016 10:32pm
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Fatboy Slim



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I've changed dozens of them and never had any special tools other than a rattle gun and an oven Thumbs Up
Post #540626 16th Jun 2016 6:23am
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
It is useful to have the special tool for holding the splined adaptor on the back of the gearbox whilst unscrewing the centre bolt, but it is not essential; it just makes the job easier. Aside from that, the only tools you need are tools that you'd expect to find in a reasonably well-equipped workshop (if all you have is a Halfords super-duper socket set, you may struggle, if you also have a decent trolley or transmission jack, and a two- or three-leg puller, you'll be OK).

I would estimate that to change the clutch at the same time would probab;y add two to three man-hours to the job, since it entails some dismantling of the interior to remove the gear change mechanism, removal of the front section of the exhaust pipe (which is not essential just to do output shaft) disconnection of the clutch hydraulics, and removal of the gearbox then clutch.

If you do get the clutch changed, it is advisabe to get the slave cylinder and the restrictor valve on the hydraulic line changed at the same time.
Post #540651 16th Jun 2016 8:06am
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Fabio



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Portugal 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
Hi
I've just picked up my defender after the a clutch and output shaft change and 762£ poorer... Mad
What a difference and how nice does the defender drive compared to what it use to.
I am impressed just wondering how long it will last... Smile

Fabio
Post #540875 16th Jun 2016 8:20pm
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KGH



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United States 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 HT Keswick Green
I have warranty issues with JLR and dealer, so I purchased items myself.

I will have a local shop do the work. Clutch, spigot bearing, slave and associated bits, and Ashcroft Shaft kit. If its coming apart, it's getting preventive on all the bits.

I also got a nice message from a forum member recommending a nearby indy shop.

That is why Defender owners rock! Always helpful. 2013 110 - Keswick Green
1995 ExRAF 110 Utility
1986 127 HCPU
1985 110 PU
2012 Disco4
Post #541229 18th Jun 2016 11:01am
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