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Zagato
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Patriot/Hannibal rack deterioration!
I have noticed a number of racks (not sure which make! H or P) that have deteriorated around the fixing bolts on other peoples racks. I wonder if it is this steel/aluminium reaction again found on Defenders or maybe something else, lifting paint perhaps. I don't want to scaremonger but just wanted to give others a bit of a heads up before they part with a lot of cash - maybe the product has been sorted now also!!

The original equipment ones are merely powder coated also so used to start rusting quite quickly.

I will probably end up buying one in the future so it would be useful to know if it is still an issue.

Anyone got any experience of a P or H "corroding"?
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Well tbh you're never gonna get away from bi-metal corrosion.

no mater whether you get a Hannibal or a Patriot rack (both made from ali) you'll always find some steel fixings. Russell
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Oh Crying or Very sad . Isn't there some special stuff you can put on the fasteners to make a barrier between the two metals to prevent or reduce the reaction. I presume the racks are delivered in kit form so owners could do it themselves.....
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See if you can get a bare ali one and get it powder coated yourself some of the coatings you see are so thin they wont stand any knocks or scrapes Thumbs Up
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I would imagine if you assembled it and coated the stainless Allen fasterners with copper slip combined with regular cleaning it will be fine maybe even a quick rub over with some wax polish now and again.

That's what I did with the chequer plate on the 110 dcpu when it came the plate had been fitted by the first owner but after last winter the salt had started the reaction causin unsightly streaks down the sills Crying or Very sad I stripped them all off cleaned and waxoyled the body sills cleaned and waxed the chequer sills then refitted coating the Allen bolts with copper slip.

This time after the salt there is some marks but it easily washes off with soap and warm water. Thumbs Up Formerly mao99999
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Had a Hannibal rack on a Defender from Rogers of Bedford many years ago the Landrover was a 2000 110csw TD5 and about 12 months old the rack was new because at the time they were agents.The rack was natural bare aluminium but the roof clamps were stainless.After about 18 months the rack looked a bit tatty after the weather and slt got to it.The swapped to a new 2004 defender and swapped the rack to it but had it blasted and powder coated by a company called Redditch Shotblasting and powder coating then had a Puma in 2007 which have still got and the rack is fitted to this.I use the Landrover as a working vehicle it carries ladders,steps, trunking ets and occasionally a couple of 6m lighting coloums.I also on occasions use it as a mobile platform for working off.The rack is still in perfect condition as there is no steel to rust.Recently i was talking to Nene Overland at a show and saw that there newer rascks had a rubber strip in the roof rail between the rack and rail.They very generously sent me the rubber free of charge in the post.I have also put some thin rubber sheet between the clamps and the roof just to protect the paint.Probably the best purchase ever made on a Defender.Patriots werent around at the time so i dont know about them.Its now 9 years old and if i sold it tomorrow would probably get a good price for it.Any doubts speak to Nene Qverland they are very good.
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not sure you would want to use copper slip, adding another metal to the mix might not be wise...
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Thanks for your replies. There is something they use for yachts as quite a bit of aluminium is used on them. I have to find out what it is anyway as I need to replace steel screws in my aluminium mast. I will post the name of it when I have found out Thumbs Up
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Zagato wrote:

Thanks for your replies. There is something they use for yachts as quite a bit of aluminium is used on them. I have to find out what it is anyway as I need to replace steel screws in my aluminium mast. I will post the name of it when I have found out



DURALAC is what I use on my boats and my Landy when using dissimilar metals Thumbs Up
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Excellent thanks for that Thumbs Up Quicker than the sailing forum Laughing (who gave same answer)
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Which number of racks and where are you seeing them,
Where are you hanging out that all the defenders have racks.
Why are the aluminium racks you've "seen" painted.
Do you have a roof rack.
Are you related to discotres.
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Lorryman100 wrote:
Zagato wrote:

Thanks for your replies. There is something they use for yachts as quite a bit of aluminium is used on them. I have to find out what it is anyway as I need to replace steel screws in my aluminium mast. I will post the name of it when I have found out



DURALAC is what I use on my boats and my Landy when using dissimilar metals Thumbs Up


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Somewhat off topic but, lots boaty people here, what do you all sail?? I have a Formula 18 catamaran that goes loony fast, but has nowhere to pour a G&T...
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BIGFOG wrote:
Somewhat off topic but, lots boaty people here, what do you all sail?? I have a Formula 18 catamaran that goes loony fast, but has nowhere to pour a G&T...


Sister has a Cat - sooo quick! I envy your speed Thumbs Up

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