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MarkM61



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Black wolf, I just looked a the the puma 2.2 wiring diagrams in the link above, posted in another thread by Daniel.

It shows the door switches switching the alarm unit, which switches the interior lights, so you are 100% correct, it is the off state leakage current of alarm unit output.

Anyway, LEDs will not flatten the battery more than incandescent lights, as leakage is always there regardless of bulb type
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey
The fact that this happens tells you it's the 10AS:

durham wrote:
Just to add to the pot, on my 2014 MY (cheap) replacement LED bulbs glow very slightly when all doors closed and as described by OP, only way to prevent is to switch light fitting to "off". They fade as normal, when door closed, but remain with a faint glow, even when driving.


Any sort of solid state switching will cause this, it's called leakage current or quiescent current, that is current in the off/inactive state.

It really is nothing to worry about in this case.

If you're trying to design something with a really low power consumption then it might be, for instance most voltage regulators will merrily munch a few mA all the time (see the Blue Sea USB sockets for instance) and if your total power budget is only a few mA continuous then you have to be aware of it. When I next have my interior light apart I'll measure it, but I would guess that the drain will be <1mA.
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Was there a definitive "this isn't a problem"? I put my LED interior bulbs in today and noticed the slight glow. As above turning the switch off turns the glow off. It's only a slight flow as it is only dimly lighting up three of the nine LED units.

It's there all the time if the switch is set to come on with the doors. Kinda looks like "mood lighting" when driving along.

My previous 2012 110 didn't do this. Is the 15MY alarm different to the 12/13?

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I installed this, three years ago, on the back (in the front I have the roof console also with led) and is still working ...



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MrConfidence



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Had the same problem... go buy some dimmable LED bulbs with built-in capacitor.

Works well since then.
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Morepower



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Have you got a link to a supplier?

Thanks Tim It doesn't matter how bad it is, It can always get worse...

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http://www.conrad.de/ce/de/product/704320/...nhalt-1-St

They will also post to UK...
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Morepower



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Thanks... I have friends in Germany... So I'll get them to sort some for me..

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Here are a few pix of what's happening, taken in my truck when I fitted LED interior slabs.....

Pic 1. 12v, interior light fully on
Pic 2. 5v at the time I took the pic, interior light fading down using PWM...
Pic 3. Interior light off, but with about 1.7v flowing.. This is for the alarm to know if the bulb is shagged, and forms part of the alarm trigger circuit..


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Has anyone found LED bulbs that don't cause a glow and still save on the draw of the existing bulb?
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Happens with mine. Even with LEDs fitted by the dealership. Did not at first but do now. Actually quite like it ... a bit like an airliner with the lights dimmed.
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