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steve E Member Since: 06 Mar 2011 Location: Tenby Posts: 2073 ![]() ![]() |
A frippery it is I tell you
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Walmsleys Member Since: 19 Feb 2015 Location: Leyland Posts: 110 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I believe that caste (note the spelling) relates to social standing or status, rather than ethnicity. The caste system in the sub-continent still exists in some areas. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_system_in_India Does that help? TBH, as you're a former teacher, I thought you'd know more about these things... 2015 Urban Truck 90XS in Havana (previously 2013 D4 XS in Fuji White) (previously 2011 D4 XS in Stornaway Grey, auto, black leather, reversing camera and removable tow bar) (previously 2011 Freelander 2, blue (Mrs B's) (previously 2007 TDV6 D3 SE Zermatt Silver, auto, black leather, an Uncle Ray plate and AT2s) (previously 2001 Freelander One, blue) (previously 1967 Series 2, Green) |
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mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6772 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I wouldn't call myself a youngster ![]() My build thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html |
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Walmsleys Member Since: 19 Feb 2015 Location: Leyland Posts: 110 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Well said, RFT. 2015 Urban Truck 90XS in Havana
(previously 2013 D4 XS in Fuji White) (previously 2011 D4 XS in Stornaway Grey, auto, black leather, reversing camera and removable tow bar) (previously 2011 Freelander 2, blue (Mrs B's) (previously 2007 TDV6 D3 SE Zermatt Silver, auto, black leather, an Uncle Ray plate and AT2s) (previously 2001 Freelander One, blue) (previously 1967 Series 2, Green) |
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RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1591 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
RFT makes a lot of sense. This thread should be in miserable old git section or just not on a Defender forum. We have enough to worry about as it is. I have now done the most miles in any of my defenders and can't buy a new one.
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leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582 ![]() ![]() |
The caste system is still very active in the Indian sub continent, however in the Middle East it will be compounded by many other factors. Apart from race, there are also racial, cultural, religious, skin colour, educational factors operating. For instance, Middle East largely Moslem, India largely Hindu, many Indian labourers come from south India and they are often a darker colour, many Indian labourers are illiterate etc. In India it is 'interesting' watching a cafe owner 'pay' the cleaner. Cafe owner of the Brahmins (priest caste) pay the Untouchable cleaner. The rice was scrapped out of the cook pot onto the banana leaf but all at a distance without contact. The Indian government are doing positive discrimination by helping lower caste to go to universities by putting quotas in place. This means students from higher castes with better qualifications get denied places due to the quota system which caused tensions. India and cups of tea whilst travelling used to be served in a clay pot which was smashed after first use by the customer. Creates lots of employment and very hygienic! As for people travelling, people should expand their horizons and experiences forget sun, sea, sex type travelling, forget the chain hotels, find the local owned hotels/b&bs eat the street food, try and visit local markets/children homes etc with wide open eyes. Brendan |
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Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6318 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re the caste system i've certainly learnt something today - thank you.
Re: witnessing it i've no interest whether it's right or wrong? So far as i'm concerned it has nothing to do with me pretty much as Sadam and his regime had nothing to do with me but some bright spark thought they could pop ever there take him out and live happily ever after. Didn't quite work did it. In my narrow minded deluded little world there seems to be a lot of bright sparks out there trying to do good but seem to be messing things up on the grand scale? Right or wrong different parts of the world have different ideas and may be God put water in the way of these different areas / continents for a good reason - to stop other people interfering. We've all seen is happened to the defender thanks to the bright sparks at the EU. Yep going going gone down the pan. ![]() |
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Orangesofa Member Since: 10 Oct 2014 Location: Somerset Posts: 214 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Ah-men to that! Phil |
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Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6318 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The unfortunate thing is Brendan there seems to be less need to travel these days which is a real shame.
Take all your different restaurants for example doing everything from pizza to poppadoms. Kebabs to king prawns. The mention of paying the low ranks in India with left over rice reminds me of a Chinese restaurant I visited in Birmingham where the cook or kitchen hand was living next to the kitchen in the basement on an old hammock? Some might like the idea of having it all here on the door step but I don't. In the same way why would I want to go to Spain to have a s.s.s. Type holiday. A bit like going to dubai and eating at Mcdonald 's? Everyone to their own I guess. |
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leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582 ![]() ![]() |
Less need to travel?
So WRONG! Just because there are many different types of restaurants in the UK does not mean that they are authentic. Local food is very different to what is served up in the UK restaurants. The trouble is that a lot of people do not either travel or travel with an open mind and open senses. All the senses, the smell of a local market or even an open sewer, hearing be the quietness of a desert except for sand particles moving over each other or the rush hour traffic in Calcutta, the taste of a crocodile steak or fried locust,, the sight of a large waterfall or a crippled blind beggar. Travel with an open mind tends also to broaden the mind with the experiences. Highly recommended, travel off the beaten track ![]() Brendan |
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Pickles Member Since: 26 May 2013 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3789 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
This man speaks the truth,..except for "The Banks"...Ours are pretty strong, & "held up Aussie" during the GFC. Of course there are those who go on & on about Banks "ripping us off", which as far as I've seen means, "we want everything for nothing",.....which ain't gonna happen. Anyway, welcome to my World, "Downunder" & I'm glad you've raised many issues that I see down here. I could go on & on, but I tell you what, we're being done over by Lefties & Do-Gooders. I recognize how lucky I am to live in Aus, & you guys the same in the U.K. But there are those who take it all for granted,..think they should have what I worked 40 years for, NOW,...don't wanna do the hard stuff, go without etc. Anyway mate, I pretty much am with you. As a well known Aussie politician once said, "Life wasn't meant to be easy". Pickles. |
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pjw4233 Member Since: 30 Nov 2009 Location: Lake District & Cheshire Posts: 273 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Also horrified at the falling of British standards.
Next time I'm in Waitrose, I'll be taking a proper China cup and saucer with me to decant my coffee into. |
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Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6318 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I understand the Telegraph are now being sued for referring to the cups and plates as 'China'. something to do with discrimination?
I believe the correct term is 'Porcelain' ! Whatever next ![]() |
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Walmsleys Member Since: 19 Feb 2015 Location: Leyland Posts: 110 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Really? It certainly wasn't here in Lancashire when the recent floods hit, nor was it in Cumbria for the same reason. Rarely, does positive news get reported, but everyday there are acts of neighbourly kindness that we all experience but somehow they don't count. Similarly, people like to berate our NHS, but most people who've used the system are full of praise for it. As for the lack of need to travel because there's a kebab house and an Indian nearby, I'm almost lost for words. Step outside the box, live a lttle and think for a while of what we've got in the country that millions of others envy. How is it that other people's problems aren't ours just because they don't live in this little island? How far do you go with that argument? Should I ignore other people's problems because they aren't in England? Not in Lancashire? Not in my town? Not down my road? Not in my house? There was I, thinking Thatcher's Britain was long gone... 2015 Urban Truck 90XS in Havana (previously 2013 D4 XS in Fuji White) (previously 2011 D4 XS in Stornaway Grey, auto, black leather, reversing camera and removable tow bar) (previously 2011 Freelander 2, blue (Mrs B's) (previously 2007 TDV6 D3 SE Zermatt Silver, auto, black leather, an Uncle Ray plate and AT2s) (previously 2001 Freelander One, blue) (previously 1967 Series 2, Green) |
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