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Leviathan



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Problem #2 - steering wheel moved
I fitted an aftermarket steering wheel/boss recently.

The first time I lined up the wheel to the straight ahead position it was a guess and ended up pointing at roughly 10 o clock. No problem I thought, so I marked the column and refitted it.

Unfortunately after a trip out it was still pointing at about 11 o'clock for straight ahead Evil or Very Mad so I left it to sort when I had more time.

Anyway while out today I was alarmed to see that the steering wheel was suddenly pointing straight!! It has definitely changed and by the time I got home I was convinced it was at 1 o'clock.

What the hell could cause this?

Help please Big Cry
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check that 1 of your tyres is not going soft then check all the track rod ends and other steering joints are tight and don't have play in them, best done with a mate or Mrs wobbling the steering wheel back and forth, DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

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Lambley



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What kind of wheel and boss have you fitted? Is it a fixed wheel to boss that's bolted or a removable one?
Post #492708 15th Jan 2016 5:56pm
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Leviathan



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The boss is fixed.

I did remove some shims in the swivels last weekend to cure a wheel wobble and have got some new ball joints because the old ones felt a bit 'notchy', but not fitted yet. Would that do it?

Also I noticed I'd got a screw in the O/S/F tyre today - but it didnt seem to be deep as I pulled it out with my fingers, so you might have something there also.
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Mo Murphy



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Did you change the length of the drag link ?
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Post #492734 15th Jan 2016 7:16pm
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Anderzander



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Is there anyway for the wheel to rotate against the boss ?
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When I change wheels I drive round with a ratchet and socket for a couple of week so I can keep adjusting it as I never get it perfect first time. Whistle 1998 90 50th Anniversary 4.0 V8
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Leviathan



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Mo Murphy wrote:
Did you change the length of the drag link ?
Mo


No......should I have done?
Anderzander wrote:
Is there anyway for the wheel to rotate against the boss ?


No it's solid

When I change wheels I drive round with a ratchet and socket for a couple of week so I can keep adjusting it as I never get it perfect first time.


I take it you mean steering wheels?

But mine has changed without undoing the boss nut!

Also checked the tyres and no pressure loss.
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The wheel cannot shift on the splined shaft. Similarly there is no link to the steering box that can shift.

However, if you have removed shims off one of the swivels, that will effect the toe, which could make the steering pretty imprecise,

Depending on the camber of the road, your dead centre postion will then wander to compensate.

Get the toe checked. 1998 Tdi 90 SW,
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Re: Problem #2 - steering wheel moved
Leviathan wrote:
I fitted an aftermarket steering wheel/boss recently.

The first time I lined up the wheel to the straight ahead position it was a guess and ended up pointing at roughly 10 o clock. No problem I thought, so I marked the column and refitted it.

Unfortunately after a trip out it was still pointing at about 11 o'clock for straight ahead Evil or Very Mad so I left it to sort when I had more time.

Anyway while out today I was alarmed to see that the steering wheel was suddenly pointing straight!! It has definitely changed and by the time I got home I was convinced it was at 1 o'clock.

What the hell could cause this?

Help please Big Cry


10 O'clock to 11 O' Clock? Are you sure you didn't set it to the clock on your dash? Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy ****CENSORED****
Post #492846 16th Jan 2016 7:12am
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Leviathan



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I think Ive knackered the swivel bearings fixing my last problem Evil or Very Mad . When I put my hand under to feel the balljoints I got a hand full of swivel grease.

I had to bash the bejesus out of the drive shafts to free the rusted on drive flange and I think thats done it.

I will need to strip both sides completely to check their condition. Big Cry

Whats the concensus on the quality of the swivel rebuild kits atm? The usual suspects all seem to sell cheapish full Britpart kits or ones with Timken bearings for a bit more. But are the seals different also?

Also shall I change the wheel bearings while in there? They dont seem loose or noisey but I wonder if Ive given them some hammer also.

Thanks for your help peeps


Nick

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Post #492900 16th Jan 2016 11:21am
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Leviathan



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Confirmed my fears that the top swivel bearing race has collapsed and the swivel ball is pitted also.

I'm going to replace everything.

Are britpart kits OK? Any recommendations for suppliers?

Nick
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