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custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20290

Retro - Thanks for the info, very useful.
I'm towing a Ifor P8e with mesh cage on a Cat B.
Very pleased with it indeed and 8' X 4' more than suits my needs and as you say isn't like those silly little car trailers that bounce about and dissapear in the mirrors...

It's the largest of it's type in-braked and plated at 228kg un-laden and 750kg gross.

So just over 1/2tonne - 500KG payload which is quite a lot unless you had something specifically heavy.
A quad or something you would need to check weights.

I've been exceptionally pleased with it, stable, handles well and reverses well too.
And with a jockey wheel it's just right for moving by hand if need be and stable when loading / un-loading when not hitched and with props down too.

Moving it by hand is a must for me as there isn't enough room to park it otherwise.
Not without blocking everywhere.

20th Dec 2015 2:02pm

Retroanaconda

Member Since: 04 Jan 2012
Location: Scotland
Posts: 2635

All the quad trailers at work are un-braked and plated at 750kg or less for this very reason. It was actually a P8 that I found a massive pain behind my 90. Though it didn't have cage sides, which would improve the visibility. My dad has one which I borrowed to collect an engine (yes officer it's well under 500kg...) and it was a fiddle to reverse. Bounced around when empty too.

Now have an LM125G which tows like a dream behind the Land Rover. Don't know how I managed without it, a Defender without an accompanying big trailer is only half the story

20th Dec 2015 2:43pm

Cupboard

Member Since: 21 Mar 2014
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 2971

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey

I have found the source of my confusion. The rules have changed (or at least the gov.uk website has) in the last year... yay.

I printed this out in November 2014 which clearly says MAM for 2013- and weight for 1997-2013:

Click image to enlarge

For me (as mentioned) that actually makes quite a big difference, and I'm a bit

off they changed it without making any sort of a fuss about it.

11th Jan 2016 6:28pm

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 5034

2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Scotia Grey

They change it a few times im sure i remember them saying that the trailer test removed the trailer weight restriction when i did it eg any weight of trailer thats legal, where as before it was limit to 3500kg trailer and i bet its different now.

So as above a coupled braked 4ton trailer would be ok Mike

11th Jan 2016 7:01pm

Cupboard

Member Since: 21 Mar 2014
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 2971

At one point the 1997-2013 B+E didn't have a weight limit on the trailer, so you could get a tractor unit based on a van and tow mini-artic trailers.

11th Jan 2016 9:35pm

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 5034

Yes thats when i did mine Mike

11th Jan 2016 10:24pm

AJC

Member Since: 30 Nov 2015
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 1358

to get round this problem, i did my class 1

12th Jan 2016 6:50am

RobKeay

Member Since: 19 Jul 2009
Location: Stafford
Posts: 1579

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey

There has always been a total train weight. Think it's 8250kg.

12th Jan 2016 7:44am

mse

Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 5034

AJC wrote:
to get round this problem, i did my class 1

except that doesnt technically exist C+E Mike

12th Jan 2016 5:32pm

Boyd

Member Since: 11 May 2014
Location: Le Saint
Posts: 172

Just to avoid confusion as a number of people have quoted the old rules...

https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car/driving...ou-can-tow

From the 16th Jan last year there was a suttle change mainly impacting those that passed their test after Jan '97 (and before sometime in 2012) holding a category B license, now instead of it being the gross weight of the combined 'train' being 3500kg as a limit, it's the weight being the restriction I.e. You can tow a trailer with a greater gross weight than 750kg and more specifically greater than a 3500kg train gross as long as the 'train' weight is no higher than 3500kg.

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12th Jan 2016 7:29pm

Cupboard

Member Since: 21 Mar 2014
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 2971

Hold on, I think you've got it backwards?
It's gone from being actual train weight to plated maximum train weight.

12th Jan 2016 9:24pm

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