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| Alive Tuning Member Since: 01 Mar 2010 Location: Louth Posts: 609   
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Hi All
Tim is right! Gary and i have decided Alive is going to develop some comfort springs for the 110. not saying they will be available right away but keep an eye out as they are on the way! Cheers Alex Divers  |
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6th Jan 2016 3:43pm |
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| g-mack Member Since: 07 Jan 2014 Location: northumberland Posts: 1967
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great news
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6th Jan 2016 4:00pm |
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| Allan c. Member Since: 20 Mar 2014 Location: Aude Posts: 27  
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That's good news!
Will they compromise the defenders towing ability? |
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6th Jan 2016 6:21pm |
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| Biffas Member Since: 30 Dec 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 122  
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At last i can see light at the end of the tunnel thanks all at alive tuning from Luke. 2014 110 USW.
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6th Jan 2016 8:45pm |
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| YOLO110 Member Since: 14 Feb 2015 Location: Perth Oz and Stansted UK Posts: 1640 
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Just wondered if you clever guys at Alive are able to offer your 90 'comfort' springs without having to drop the ride height the 1.5 inches? I would love the more complaint set-up but without losing the ground clearance so often required in Australia off road.
YOLO... You Only Live Once... |
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6th Jan 2016 11:08pm |
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| Morepower Member Since: 08 Jan 2013 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 630 
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I've looked at this issue for both the 90 and 110 and could design some adjustable spring platforms, so you can run std or lower ride height..
Whats everyone opinion? Cheers Tim It doesn't matter how bad it is, It can always get worse... 2013 Bowler 110 (Sold) 2016 Bowler 90 Rally Spec (Sold) |
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7th Jan 2016 1:38am |
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| McGeordie Member Since: 20 Feb 2012 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 220 
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Adjustable ride height...now that would be cool! Sold Def 90 HT 2010...Stornaway..(SOLD in Oct 2014)
Current: delivered October 2014:- 110 USW XS.....Montalcino Red |
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11th Jan 2016 6:39pm |
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| Green Machine Member Since: 19 Nov 2010 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1226 
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Well I have now had Alive's comfort springs fitted to my 90 for a week, so thought I would feedback some initial impressions. There is no doubt that ride quality is significantly improved over the standard 90 CSW setup. The difference is most noticeable over smaller bumps, particularly rumble strips, cattle grids and level crossings. Previously these would all send a considerable vibration with associated clattering and rattling through the whole vehicle, now they are barely perceptible. I had the springs installed with genuine spring isolators top and bottom all round, so some of this effect may be coming from the isolators rather than the springs. The main reason for fitting the isolators was to regain some of the ride height lost with the lowering springs. I'm very pleased with the resulting 'stance'. It's a touch lower than standard, but you'd struggle to tell and it now sits perfectly level (previously slightly nose-up).
Handling is largely the same as before. There is maybe a touch more roll through fast corners, but very difficult to tell. Mine has standard ARBs front and rear and at the moment I certainly don't feel a need to upgrade the rear ARB. Overall Alive's comfort springs are very well judged. They really do take the edge off the harshness, but still retain a good degree of firmness in terms of handling and body roll, which is probably quite a difficult balance to strike. If you soften the ride right down to give great comfort, you increase body roll and reduce handling performance. Firm it up to get the handling back and you lose the ride comfort. These are a great balance of the two. It is worth mentioning that the ride is still on the 'firm' side - it's certainly no Rolls Royce! Bigger potholes and bumps still upset it as they always have, but I suspect this is down to the characteristics of beam axles and the fundamental suspension system, which we all recognise is some way off a modern car's all-round independent suspension. All in all I think this is probably about the optimum setup for a 90 that spends most of its life unladen on the road (as mine does). Also worth mentioning that mine is a 2005 Td5 and has done around 55k miles, the springs removed were the originals so probably a bit tired. I am running Koni Heavy Track shocks set to their softest setting (both before and after the spring change). 2005 Td5 | 90 Station Wagon | Tonga Green |
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31st Jan 2016 5:00pm |
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| Biffas Member Since: 30 Dec 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 122
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I wish alivetuning would hurry up and do the 110 setup my wife refuses to sit in the back of mine my poor 7 year old son loves to sit in the front.
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1st Feb 2016 8:14pm |
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| RRUK Site Supporter Member Since: 31 Mar 2010 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 2019
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Thanks for the write up. If I go down this route, I will probably fit the Bilstein B6 dampers too, and leave the ARB's as standard. I will also do a write up, but as I'm away a lot over the next month, it won't be till March or April. 2016 D4 HSE 1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF 1982 Series 3 SWB Petrol |
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1st Feb 2016 10:40pm |
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| Alexke Member Since: 03 Jan 2011 Location: Antwerp Posts: 113 
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How hard is it to do a Air suspension conversion on a Defender?
cant we just take the gear of the P38? or am i Completely wrong? Discovery 4 SDV6 Landmark F31 320dA Msport xDrive LR Defender 90SW TD4 Stornoway grey 320d E46 E70 X5 3.0d Sold! FFRR TD6 - Sold |
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2nd Feb 2016 1:33am |
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| Alive Tuning Member Since: 01 Mar 2010 Location: Louth Posts: 609
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We are working on it at the moment |
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4th Feb 2016 10:51am |
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| RCMike Member Since: 30 Apr 2015 Location: North Wiltshire Posts: 70
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An option that i'm currently using is a set of Terrafirma front light duty +2's springs on the rear of my 90. They are 200Lbs spring rate and approx 39/40cm uncompressed. I regain ride height with some spacers.
They provide a nice rate reduction over standard but not too soft. |
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4th Feb 2016 10:15pm |
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| Defenderdredd Member Since: 05 Oct 2010 Location: South Hams Posts: 10 
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Would be interested in 2 sets, both for 110 Double Cabs, shocks as well!
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4th Feb 2016 11:11pm |
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