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GypsySamuraiAnt



Member Since: 31 Mar 2015
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Australia 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Indus Silver
Recommendation for 2" lift for touring 110 SW setup
Hi all,

New to 4wd suspension set ups and need some words of wisdom for a 2" lift. I don't plan on towing anything but will have a full load whilst touring including full roof rack. I currently have 16" Wolf steel rims and I think they came standard with HD springs from factory.

I was thinking either Koni Raids or Bilstein shocks but not sure about anything else. All comments and advise welcome Mr. Green

Cheers,
Ant.
Post #478674 3rd Dec 2015 10:56am
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Matt110



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Sure people who have done this before will be along in a minute to offer help, however, be very careful with a 2" lift at the front on a puma. The height and angle of the gearbox means that you get very close to having vibrating propshafts from the angles involved. 2" is about where the "maybe maybe not" starts occurring whereby some vehicles do vibrate, some do not.

To solve it you need double yoke props on the front axle.
Post #478678 3rd Dec 2015 11:18am
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mikeh501



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What are you looking for in changing out the suspension would be the first question?

When you say "full load", what are we talking? does your vehicle also have other modifications too? i.e. heavy winch bumpers, winch, tree sliders etc etc.

The advice from me would be to work out how much additional weight your going to be carrying and then calculate what additional poundage you need from the springs. That way you can buy springs which match your intended vehicle weight. Whether you go for a longer spring is completely optional.

In terms of shocks, then koni and bilstein are both good options. Wouldnt rule out OME either. Id say they are superior to either koni/bilstein from what ive read, and have just gone from koni to OME but dont have any road miles yet on them. Fox shocks are also well regarded outside LR circles and are new to the defender. These have remote reservoirs which will help with the damper overheating and going all mushy off road.

Gwyn Lewis (google him) is definately worth a chat to discuss options.
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Cupboard



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Would you be better off with heavier duty suspension rather than a lift?
If your only aim is to carry heavy loads and don't need the increase in approach and departure angles would that work better?
Post #478702 3rd Dec 2015 12:52pm
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GypsySamuraiAnt



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Australia 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Indus Silver
Thanks everyone for the replies. Here are some answers to the questions asked.

Touring in Australia can involve some pretty heavy duty wheeling to get to certain destinations for camping. Plus the weather is very unpredictable so a little extra height when fully laden is the goal for piece of mind for large water crossings & washed out heavily rutted tracks etc.

As for weight and load here are the most heavy items from memory;
Rear storage shelf that holds a large 60L fridge/freezer & 30kg portable battery pack
2.2m full roof rack with 2 x 2.5x2.5m awnings
40L water tank
2 spare tyre/wheels
solar panels, tables & chairs
SD ladder
Nugget Stuff rear recover hitch
And about to add a HD OEM front bumper and single hoop interior roll bar

Thanks Thumbs Up
Post #478859 3rd Dec 2015 8:02pm
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AlanH



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I carry much the same as you Gypo, but haven't bothered with extra height or HD shocks on the Puma. I certainly do some rough off road work, sometimes hundreds of kays of corrugations etc., but just take it easy and vary tyre pressures etc.
I reckon the Defender for all it's problems (Grrrr) will do the vast majority of things I want to do, be it beach or track work.
Plus I've got the Cook with me and all her cooking and cleaning gear as well........ Laughing
AlanH.

PS. I sometimes hate the POS but can't think what to get to replace it...... Crying or Very sad
Post #479277 5th Dec 2015 9:24am
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GypsySamuraiAnt



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PS. I sometimes hate the POS but can't think what to get to replace it...... Crying or Very sad

Thanks Alan, but that's no way to talk about your better half Rolling with laughter Mr. Green
Post #479522 5th Dec 2015 10:54pm
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GypsySamuraiAnt



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Australia 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Indus Silver
Anyone had any experience with lift blocks? I saw these 25mm one on the Fladog site

http://www.flatdoguk.com/search.asp?types=...mp;super=F

Cheers
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LR90XS2011



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what about just fitting Discovery spring isolators getting a slight lift and improving noise and comfort and then fitting an adjustable shock to cater for the varying terrain/loads DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
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GypsySamuraiAnt



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Sorry I'm not familiar with those, do you have a link for me?

Cheers.
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leeds



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We spent 8 months touring the Austalian outback in our 110 300 TDi

For ground clearance we went for 255/85/16 tyres which is 33" diameter and an extra 1" under the diffs. HD springs worked well.

Approach angle? Had winch bumper which sat on top of the chassis members.

Rear winch in rear cross member meant no loss of departure angle.

Engine compressor and 9 litre tank meant could reflate tyre quickly.

Avoid standard Aussie cast iron cookware.

Brendan
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GypsySamuraiAnt



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Awesome, thanks Brendan! Have done some research on the 255/85 tyre size and looks like a winner. Will probably go with some Cooper AT3's.

Ok so that takes care of one inch. I wonder if the Discovery spring isolators will sort out the other?

Cheers
Post #481447 12th Dec 2015 12:52am
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pannawonica



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[quote="leeds"]We spent 8 months touring the Austalian outback in our 110 300 TDi

For ground clearance we went for 255/85/16 tyres which is 33" diameter and an extra 1" under the diffs. HD springs worked well.

Approach angle? Had winch bumper which sat on top of the chassis members.

Rear winch in rear cross member meant no loss of departure angle.

Engine compressor and 9 litre tank meant could reflate tyre quickly.

Avoid standard Aussie cast iron cookware.

Brendan[/quote] To right about the cookware, get yourself a De buyer frying pan Thumbs Up
Post #481450 12th Dec 2015 3:24am
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LR90XS2011



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re the spring isolators there was a thread on here but I cant find it now, however Google is your friend (I cant remember how to attach a link) DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
Post #481460 12th Dec 2015 7:47am
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Mo Murphy



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110 springs are of a larger diameter than discovery springs to which isolators were originally fitted so you may have trouble fitting them.
Mo The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen.

50 Shades of Pennine Grey
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