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| Theater Member Since: 27 Sep 2010 Location: Pisa Italy Posts: 514   
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The manual for Puma Defender is "Puma leak procedure " https://www.defender2.net/gallery/albums/u...cedure.pdf Marco Defender 110 "SW" SE Galway Green MY 2009 Ex Defender 90 "SW" S Santorini Black MY 2010 |
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27th Nov 2015 10:52am |
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| Giby_off Member Since: 05 Apr 2015 Location: Sofia Posts: 63  
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This doc is new to me.
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27th Nov 2015 12:13pm |
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| Mirrordad Member Since: 25 Feb 2015 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 14  
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Mine had a leak with the water ending up in exactly the same place. I thought it was coming in between the bulkhead and the windscreen because that was where it was dripping from. The dealer "sealed" it but it still leaked so I took it back in. It turned out that it was leaking around the roof line and the water running down the A pillar behind the plastic trim and dripping into the footwell.
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28th Nov 2015 4:02pm |
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| Giby_off Member Since: 05 Apr 2015 Location: Sofia Posts: 63
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Tomorrow I will take out the plastic trim and will check if there is water.
Today I checked if there is water inside, under the window behind the dashboard (took pictures with mobile phone and tested with fingers) and I was not able to find out any water traces. Isolation between bulkhead and the window was wet (a lot of water). Checked with torch from outside the sealant and I saw that in front of driver seat dealer missed to cover with sealant the whole seal. Because of this I decided not to touch anything and called the dealer and Monday morning will take the car there. This time I will insist the to change the seal and not only to put sealant (windows silicone) on it. Bulkhead-window seal looks like a sponge - how could it prevent the water going inside? |
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28th Nov 2015 7:39pm |
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| Giby_off Member Since: 05 Apr 2015 Location: Sofia Posts: 63
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Today I removed plastic trims which cover the window pillars. Tested Defender front window and the roof with 10 minutes heavy water jet but no water traces were found on the pillars.
Tomorrow gong to the dealer for 3rd time  |
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29th Nov 2015 6:11pm |
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| Theater Member Since: 27 Sep 2010 Location: Pisa Italy Posts: 514
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 Marco
Defender 110 "SW" SE Galway Green MY 2009 Ex Defender 90 "SW" S Santorini Black MY 2010 |
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29th Nov 2015 7:25pm |
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| Giby_off Member Since: 05 Apr 2015 Location: Sofia Posts: 63
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I say new because I in that point in time I knew only the old Ingress manual.
Now I know it by heart  |
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30th Nov 2015 2:34pm |
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| Giby_off Member Since: 05 Apr 2015 Location: Sofia Posts: 63
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Took it to the dealer. This time they took it very seriously and they decided to take out the dashboard and to investigate what is the reason for the leak. Since the car has 3+2 years warranty this approach will be much more expensive to me but I hope we will be able to solve the problem once for all.
Hahah this leads me to an IT joke
"We have a problem." "Remember, there are no such things as problems, only opportunities." "Well then, we have a DDoS opportunity" |
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30th Nov 2015 2:38pm |
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| Giby_off Member Since: 05 Apr 2015 Location: Sofia Posts: 63
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Tomorrow I am taking back my car from the dealer. According them the problems wasn't coming from windscreen seal or from the bulkhead seal but from the driver door. When I take the car I will put it under waterterflow in order to test it
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1st Dec 2015 3:59pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 
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This really is nothing new. Rest assured you are treading a path that has been very well worn by 1000's of Land Rover owners before you. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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1st Dec 2015 5:00pm |
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| Giby_off Member Since: 05 Apr 2015 Location: Sofia Posts: 63
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You mean I will go 4th time to the dealer
I thought 3 trips to dealer are average and I will be within this number |
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1st Dec 2015 7:27pm |
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| Giby_off Member Since: 05 Apr 2015 Location: Sofia Posts: 63
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I took my car today. They told me that partially removed the dashboard and looked behind it while they were punting water on the car and according to them the water was coming from the drivers door. They sealed both front doors and the taps for RHD wipes.
Does someone knows how difficult is to exchange the bulkhead sealant? Can exchange it after you remove front hinges or you shall do something else as well? |
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2nd Dec 2015 3:05pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471
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If you mean the closed cell foam seal between the windscreen frame and top of the bulkhead then the usual way is to raise the roof which in turn allows the screen frame to be lifted for access to the seal. Most will just run a bead of sealant along the join with everything still in place.
Again this is nothing new and has been discussed here many times before. Steve. Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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2nd Dec 2015 3:14pm |
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| Giby_off Member Since: 05 Apr 2015 Location: Sofia Posts: 63
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Agree, nothing new just new actors. As you mentioned, there is also a new bed of sealant along the foam seal.
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2nd Dec 2015 7:00pm |
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