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StephenO

Member Since: 03 Dec 2010
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 246

LED Side lights

Hi

I have a D90 300tdi and recently upgraded the front lights and fitted 110 night breakers. I've also added LED wedges in the main headlamp and looking to fit Side and Rear Tail/Stop LEDS. Having purchased 2 sets now that are meant to be compatible none of them seem to work.

R5W & P21 fittings but no joy?

Anyone got any ideas?

Cheers

Stephen

2007 Defender Puma Tonga Green

2015 Range Rover Sport Autobiography Corrie Grey
1968 Series 2a Bronze Green
1995 Defender 90 Coniston Green
2005 Discovery 3 Zambezi Silver

18th Oct 2015 10:41pm

jasong4110

Member Since: 18 Oct 2009
Location: Henley On Thames
Posts: 268

Hi Stephen,

The issue is that the bulbs are diodes and land rover in their wisdom wired the lights backwards (Earth in the centre) to get LED 'bulbs' to work you will need to swap the wires around.

Jason

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18th Oct 2015 10:49pm

StephenO

Member Since: 03 Dec 2010
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 246

Thanks Jason, I'll give that a go

2007 Defender Puma Tonga Green

2015 Range Rover Sport Autobiography Corrie Grey
1968 Series 2a Bronze Green
1995 Defender 90 Coniston Green
2005 Discovery 3 Zambezi Silver

19th Oct 2015 7:03pm

StephenO

Member Since: 03 Dec 2010
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 246

Jason,

Worked a treat, wired one in tonight. What a difference cheers

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20th Oct 2015 6:34pm

mk1collector

Member Since: 17 Sep 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 6769

Led bulbs aren't road legal though

Ray
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http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html

20th Oct 2015 6:47pm

StephenO

Member Since: 03 Dec 2010
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 246

Don't think LED side lights are illegal. If they are then my D3 has been illegal for a few years and passed a number of MOT without question 2007 Defender Puma Tonga Green

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20th Oct 2015 7:13pm

JAY BOY

Member Since: 04 May 2010
Location: Not here
Posts: 1706

My FFRR has all LED lights as standard with exception of head lights

20th Oct 2015 7:16pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20294

LED lights that are factory 'E' marked on the lenses such as Wipac or RDX sidelights are legal.
LED headlights are legal again if E marked units.
Fitting LED fixtures into Crystal headlights or other aux lights is illegal.

20th Oct 2015 7:22pm

StephenO

Member Since: 03 Dec 2010
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 246

So, my Wipac crystal headlamps are "e" marked so I can't put 501 LED wedges in them (legally)? 2007 Defender Puma Tonga Green

2015 Range Rover Sport Autobiography Corrie Grey
1968 Series 2a Bronze Green
1995 Defender 90 Coniston Green
2005 Discovery 3 Zambezi Silver

20th Oct 2015 7:37pm

Cupboard

Member Since: 21 Mar 2014
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 2971

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StephenO wrote:
Don't think LED side lights are illegal. If they are then my D3 has been illegal for a few years and passed a number of MOT without question

Paging Brendan...

Seriously though, it's not the MOT's job to check that sort of thing.

20th Oct 2015 7:47pm

StephenO

Member Since: 03 Dec 2010
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 246

Anyways, I like them, the other side will be fitted tomorrow and I'll take my chances

2007 Defender Puma Tonga Green

2015 Range Rover Sport Autobiography Corrie Grey
1968 Series 2a Bronze Green
1995 Defender 90 Coniston Green
2005 Discovery 3 Zambezi Silver

20th Oct 2015 8:07pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20294

StephenO wrote:
So, my Wipac crystal headlamps are "e" marked so I can't put 501 LED wedges in them (legally)?

No because they are designed for incandescent standard bulbs only and not tested for conformity.

If you want LED headlights your talking Speakers or Nolden to be legal.

20th Oct 2015 9:12pm

mk1collector

Member Since: 17 Sep 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 6769

As said mot people don't check but putting an led bulb in a light made for normal bulbs is illegal and if you get pulled at one of the vosa stop checks you may get in trouble. Ray
My build thread
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html

20th Oct 2015 9:12pm

StephenO

Member Since: 03 Dec 2010
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 246

custom90steve wrote:

No because they are designed for incandescent standard bulbs only and not tested for conformity.

If you want LED headlights your talking Speakers or Nolden to be legal.

2007 Defender Puma Tonga Green

2015 Range Rover Sport Autobiography Corrie Grey
1968 Series 2a Bronze Green
1995 Defender 90 Coniston Green
2005 Discovery 3 Zambezi Silver

20th Oct 2015 9:14pm

JWL

Member Since: 26 Oct 2011
Location: Hereford
Posts: 3443

I took the decision to put leds in my sidelights, both in the existing lenses and also in the pilot lights in the Chrystal headlights. I am prepared to take the consequences but not after arguing that my Defender is better off being well lit as I have it now than the poor attempt that is standard.

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