ericvv wrote:

Daniele, what does this mean? You first had the Speakers on your 90 I know, but now I see two pictures of your very same 90 with the Noldens.
Did you replace the Speakers by Nolden, and if so, why?
Or are you alternating between the two maybe? One day the Speakers, the other day the Noldens...

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Pickles wrote:

Eric, you are very complimentary with respect to the Noldens, you've given a very honest appraisal. Could it be that you maybe think the Noldens may just be, a bit better?....Just trying to "read" into your lines?
I don't have either!!,...just the standard lamps. Pickles.

No, that is not what I am saying at all. If you reread the comparison thread from the start again, you will see that we said that in the underground garage conditions we saw a more pronounced hotspot with the Nolden than with the Speaker EVO.
The Speaker EVO seemed to have a more equally distributed light pattern there.
In all honesty, in various pictures posted by some on here later, you often can also see that pronounced hotspot with the Nolden. And kitoper in the beginning had such hotspot with his Nolden.
But, that seems largely a matter of not perfectly levelling them. Kitoper later has been able to raise his Nolden beam up some without blinding oncoming traffic, and when we were driving last friday, I did not see any hotspot anymore. As said the lightbeam was strong and wide. Actually very similar to the Speaker EVO which I have, so I cannot do better than still call them a par.

I don't know about the EVO2, they seem to be a leap ahead again as to light production. Don't think I will find out quickly, because my EVO are very good and LED are supposed to last forever, mine do neither rust, nor fog up ever, and I much prefer the smaller parking light LED in my EVO than the half circle parking light of the EVO2.

dgardel, as far as your grinning is concerned... In this whole discussion about Speaker vs. Nolden, I have tried to give a honest comparison based on what you really see, and I have not let myself guide, or better misguide, by silly non standardized apples and pears lumen number discussions. And certainly not by throwing into this same comparison experiences of the older first generation Speaker (which probably indeed had its flaws) with the newer Nolden as some on here have been keen to do.
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K9F wrote:

Daniele ever the diplomat.......

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leeds wrote:

The Peak Beam Intensity number for both the Noldens and the J W Speaker Evo's is 12.5



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Beam Peak Intensity Reference Number

This marking is found only on ECE/EEC type approved forward lighting devices that produce a high ("upper", "driving") beam, and expresses the maximum light intensity in the beam. This marking is NOT an indicator of lamp performance or quality. It does not indicate where in the beam this maximum occurs, nor does it imply anything about the shape of the beam. The marking is a number such as 10, 12.5, 17.5, 20, 25, 27.5, 30, etc. Maximum authorized total high-beam peak intensity per a vehicle under ECE regulations is 225,000 candela at 12 Volts, and many countries that adhere to ECE or EEC regulations use this marking to determine the lighting legality of vehicles in use. 225,000 candela corresponds to a peak beam intensity reference number total of 75, so many countries stipulate that all beam peak intensity reference numbers found on all devices on a single vehicle must total up to no more than 75.

To learn the peak beam candlepower of a lamp with a standard-wattage bulb operating at 12 Volts, divide the reference number on the lamp by 37.5, then multiply the result by 112,500. But remember, a lamp with a higher reference number is not necessarily a better lamp than one with a lower number.