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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6613   
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What's missing on my 90 where the seat box bolts to the rear tub?
I have a gap here out to the wheelarch which has let muddy, salty water into the sill area over the winter. Both sides are the same.  Click image to enlarge 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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27th Apr 2015 11:38am |
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| shaggydog Member Since: 12 Aug 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 3347 
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Dab of sealant I'd imagine.
Though I think on mine there is a seat belt bracket there? Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197 Self confessed mileage hunter  |
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27th Apr 2015 11:42am |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3708 
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Nothing that's just a build tolerance gap
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27th Apr 2015 12:03pm |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6613
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Er right - so it is perfectly OK for water to come in through it then and corrode the sill?
1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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27th Apr 2015 12:04pm |
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| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069 
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"they are all like that sir"
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27th Apr 2015 12:06pm |
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| shaggydog Member Since: 12 Aug 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 3347
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Oh no your right its definitely not ok.
But it is a defender? Take it to your dealer and make the point of saying lots of salty water is coming out of it and then make sure they clean it properly, treat any rust appropriately and then seal it properly. Interestingly, having a look at my one yours seems to have a different seat belt arrangement as mine has a plate which bolts to the B pillar and the floor and then the seat belt attaches to that. Will take a pic and upload when I'm home if it helps? (I can't plug my phone into the work pc's  ) Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197
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27th Apr 2015 12:10pm |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6613
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This is on the new (15MY) 90, so the end of the belt loops back to the plate with the reel on it.
The soft top (1988) has (had) the bracket in the bottom corner. Martin 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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27th Apr 2015 12:12pm |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558 
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built quality is going down and down , god knows what the last ones will be like !
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27th Apr 2015 12:15pm |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6613
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Thanks for the replies
Will raise it further with the dealer, at least I know there's not just a seal plate missing or similar. Martin 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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27th Apr 2015 12:16pm |
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| shaggydog Member Since: 12 Aug 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 3347
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If its any consolation my one has a plate in the bottom of it and is maybe 5-6mm deep with dust and old mud which until now I hadn't noticed.
Hope it gets sorted Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197
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27th Apr 2015 12:19pm |
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| X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2295 
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Hello Martin Answer... build quality...
Mines is similar on one side, but tighter on the other. You can see also on your Drivers Side image that the bolt head 'north' of the location has a elongated hole in the panel work where I would guess that there is a generally assembly first, then a general alignment process before things are tightened up. Defenders as we know have worked on the principle of 'there or there abouts' for years, which I don't mind too much as long as function wins out. My 90 (MY2011) has an almost closed gap near side and a 7-8 mm gap drivers side. But on both sides there is evidence of a gasket / seal behind this assembly. Neither let in water. I noticed this when preparing / power washing the underside before the Dinitrol treatment. So I would say that it is worth going back to the Dealer, but you will probably get a silicon / water ingress 'quick fix'... make sure it's really clean and dry when you take it in as this will principally determine how long the fix lasts. Good Luck...
Click image to enlarge Drivers Side 7-8 mm Gap with rear 'Seal' Click image to enlarge Off Side Tighter but also with rear 'Seal' SKIP https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html |
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27th Apr 2015 1:10pm |
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| roel Member Since: 08 Aug 2009 Location: Lelystad Posts: 2039  
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My 2003 has the same now. While cleaning before painting I push some chewing gum look alike away and now I have the same hole on both sides.
 Roel
1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001) 1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009) 2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts. 2003 90 Td5 (2009-now) |
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27th Apr 2015 4:09pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3708
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Check to see how many loose bolts you have as well
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27th Apr 2015 4:19pm |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558
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land rover might have done it on purpose to let rain water out that comes though the windscreen joint
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27th Apr 2015 4:27pm |
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