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benn01



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Puma central locking, doors locking automatically
I have had my defender for about four years and the door locks never locked with the push of one of the locks on the door (only from the fob).

I finally decided to go for a remapped ECU and swapped out both my ECU and 10as.

The doors are locking automatically when I begin to drive. Is this normal? The locks are working with the push of the lock button on the inside.
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munch90



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I think the as10 had a setting that could be switched on to lock doors when you drove over 5 mph , could it be that ?

Guessing in would need to be plugged in to diagnostics to find out
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benn01



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Is that confirmed?
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H3nry



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@Ben: What's 10as?
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benn01



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As10 sorry
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Supacat



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Re: Puma central locking, doors locking automatically
benn01 wrote:
I have had my defender for about four years and the door locks never locked with the push of one of the locks on the door (only from the fob).


MY13 110 here and I can lock & unlock all doors if I use the button on the driver's door. The other door buttons just lock & unlock the individual door.
Post #410464 24th Mar 2015 10:06am
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skyeplumb



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Scotland 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Rimini Red
my 57plate 110XS USW will lock all doors from the drivers door button - individual doors on all others.
and once it locked me out with the engine running - grrrrr - never trust it again Series IIa Lightweight - Long Gone
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Post #410653 24th Mar 2015 9:30pm
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benn01



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Are they looking at 5mph?
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Supacat



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No not got that feature and didn't even know it could be programmed in.
Post #410720 25th Mar 2015 8:39am
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benn01



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neither did i! I need to do a test drive and confirm when it is locking. Is it possible the as10 is loose and this is a security feature? I didn't mount the as10, do you think the computer thinks it is being stolen?
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blackwolf



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Unlike the systems used on, say, the Disco 2, I don't think that the AS10 has any capability for speed locking and I don't see how this can be happening solely under AS10 control.

There is no speed transducer input into the AS10, so the unit cannot know how fast (or even if) the vehicle is moving. The EMS and the IPAC however do know if the vehicle is moving, and could - at least in theory - instruct the AS10 to lock the doors. I don't see why LR would invest in the development needed to make this happen at this stage in the product lifecycle however.

The recent vehicles use a non-genuine AS10 and there are certain differences, but I don't think speed locking is one of them.
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benn01



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I'm going to mount it properly and see if it keeps happening.
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Supacat



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There have been issues reported on here of vehicles self-locking with the keys inside. What are the possible causes of this and i wonder if you have this rather than a drive away feature. Maybe driving away just creates the bump/rub/touch to lock the vehicle?

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Post #411071 26th Mar 2015 10:47am
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munch90



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only guessing what the thing of them locking with keys inside could be

the drivers door c/l actuator is the firing one ( the one that giving signal to lock through as10 when using the key in lock ) could it be the jolt as door is closed makes the unit lock maybe if it was a bit worn/loose etc

maybe if unit and rods in door was a be tight and not quite in full unlocked postion and same again when door is slammed it jolts the unit

but if it only does it as you move off then not so sure

does it always do it , say if you on smooth road and pull off gently ?
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TDCi Guy



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I agree with Munch on the doors locking with key inside. I've only ever had the doors lock me out once and it was when I got out and shut the door from the outside. (Luckily I was at home with the spare key!) The doors have never locked themselves when I have been inside so I've put that instance down to me shutting the door too hard which has caused the lock to fire. Seems like the only sensible solution to me? Tom
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