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Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6295 |
Thanks Munch90. Great little write up.
Guess what game I'm be playing the weekend (and it has nothing to do with fuel) |
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30th Jan 2015 5:53pm |
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Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6295 |
Just been out for an hour messing with my rod.
It's now a little longer if that's the way to describe it? Basically the pedal now attaches to the rod further away from the master cylinder.....looking forward to a wee drive tomorrow see what effect (if any) it may have? |
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31st Jan 2015 10:39pm |
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munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558 |
I know you have altered it , BUT was it wrong in the first place ?
we had one in the other day told to fit a clutch , came in via another garage , so didn't know any history or faults , fitted new clutch , bleeding clutch and checking over found pedal didn't feel right , checked master adjusted wrong , re adjusted right owner picked it up , said he had fitted 3 new masters all started leaking after a while , so it must be the clutch going . cost him a clutch he didn't really need ( a case of a little knowledge is dangerous to the wallet ) shame I didn't drive it in , may have noticed it before fitting new clutch and saved him the money |
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1st Feb 2015 9:25am |
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Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6295 |
Munch90
Honest answer to your question being - I don't know. As mentioned above I've got intermittent clutch rattle so could be clutch. I also from time to get the feeling that the clutch isn't being depressed enough and then there's the on/off sensation of the clutch ie go to move off and it's a sudden clunk and we're off? I'm of the opinion it's a new clutch that's needed but figured tinkering with the clutch pedal / master cylinder first might just save me some money? Just as well I'm working now to try and pay the bill. |
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1st Feb 2015 10:25am |
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Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6295 |
I can't say for sure but with the exception of user error I don't appear to have had the issue of the clutch suddenly taking up (ie the on/off effect).
on the down side I would say the clutch now sounds more rattley than prior to me adjust the actuator rod. that said it's as before intermittent but I'd say it's more rattley and more of the time. could it mean the only answer is a new clutch? |
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3rd Feb 2015 6:55am |
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Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6295 |
What would cause the clutch to drag...ie not fully disengage?
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7th Feb 2015 6:20pm |
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munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558 |
rod not adjusted right
oil on clutch plate ( can make it slip or drag ) |
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7th Feb 2015 6:28pm |
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Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6295 |
Can't possibly imagine it being the rod poorly adjusted
In layman terms how would oil cause the clutch to drag? Slip I can understand but not drag..... Also when the actuator rod /pedal position was adjusted I'm sure that the pedal position stayed where it was and the rod moved not the other way round ie pedal from floor measurement didn't change...will check later? ? |
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7th Feb 2015 6:37pm |
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munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558 |
makes the plate sticky
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7th Feb 2015 6:48pm |
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munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558 |
the pedal postison may not have moved , but you moved the rod in the pedal
might not be getting full movement on the rod now |
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7th Feb 2015 6:50pm |
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Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6295 |
That's the crazy things.... I was encouraged to move the rod to try and ensure that the clutch was getting max movement because it felt like the clutch wasn't fully disengaging but it seems to be getting worse ie disengaging less and less?
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7th Feb 2015 7:17pm |
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munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558 |
Maybe you're getting air in clutch hydraulics
Does pedal feel spongy? |
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7th Feb 2015 10:55pm |
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astoltz Member Since: 08 Mar 2011 Location: South Africa Posts: 31 |
This was my experience with my clutch sometime ago.
Basically I bled the system until old clutch fluid was replaced. I drove since then about 1500km. No problem yet. http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/showpo...ostcount=2 PS: Clutch was replaced under warranty about 77000km ago and the vehicle is now on about 135000km 1997 Land Rover Defender 110 HT 2.8i (BMW M52) 2009 Land Rover Defender 110 HT 2.4 TDCi(Puma) |
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8th Feb 2015 7:21am |
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Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6295 |
Clutch has pretty much always felt the same (heavy) / normal I guess.
It seems a bit like there's no moment in the gear box to get a smooth gear change like the synchro isn't working but I hope that's me worrying and it's a simple case of the hydraulics not working....hopefully just air? I'll see if mate can have a look later? |
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8th Feb 2015 8:19am |
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