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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610   
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 Very Welcome. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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20th Jan 2015 7:26pm |
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| VeeTee Member Since: 06 Mar 2011 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1512 
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It is said that Philips Extreme Vision +130 have a better light output than the Osram Nightbreakers. No personal experience (yet), I have the Wipac Crystals with standard bulbs and was thinking about getting a pair of Philips Extreme Vision to replace the standard bulbs. Cheers, Vincent
1959 Polynorm 1/4 Ton Trailer, Olive Drab Green (sold) 1970 M416 Military Trailer (Camping Trailer Conversion), Epsom Green (sold) 1975 Series III 88 V6, Light Green (sadly sold) 1996 Defender 110 CSW 300 Tdi, Epsom Green (sold) 2000 Freelander 1 TD4 3-drs, Silver (sold) 2006 Freelander 1 TD4 5-drs Facelift Automatic, Tonga Green (sold) MySite |
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20th Jan 2015 7:43pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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Before my LEDs I had the Wipac cristal which standard on the SVX, and had replaced the original H4 with the upgraded H4 offered by LR as an official accessory. A world of difference, crisper white, but not blue, and that was before I installed the Landreiziger loom. With that loom it would undoubtedly have been even better still.
Now, as to Jimīs quesyion about the LEDs. Suggest to read thoroughly the different threads of Nolden vs Speaker EVO and Nolden vs Speaker EVO2 comparison. Especially the last one mentioned which is the most recent and the most relevant for todays offering. A lot of colored opinionating in there, but also some pragmatic questions, which often never got answered. Also some very true statements about IP ratings which are quite factual indeed. And some eyeball tests, but also some good photographic comparisons which are a good guidance. So read this all carefully and then make a choice basis what you have read, see, and feel suits you best. The price of both is pretty much comparable, so personal opinion basis what is all written should guide you. One thing is for sure, either of those brands latest models will be a sharp improvement to the standard H4 lamps you probably run now. Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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20th Jan 2015 8:01pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582
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Yes they are the current Noldens and for RHD/LHT UK specification Nolden 7" BiLed Headlights somehow I very much doubt that you will find a better current price then that we have offered to Defender 2 members
There are many things to consider when deciding on which LED headlights to buy. Some of the things to consider can be personal decisions such as budget and what you consider to be the best appearance of the headlights Other things to consider is the water and dust ingress rating. The highest water ingress rating is the German specification of 9K. To my knowledge only Nolden and Trucklite have that rating whereas the JWS are only a 7 Then there is light output, now the Noldens have a measured light output of 1700 lumens and the latest JWS 8700 quote a measured effective light output of 1150 lumens. Beam pattern will also vary between headlight manufacturers and which one individuals prefer is a personal decision. Reliability/history of the different makers with regard to failure rate, water ingress, condensation, corrosion etc. To date I have not come across one reported case of any issue with a Nolden LED Headlights I would suggest you look at the 'complete package' regarding the lights. We are not tied to any particular headlight maker, and have also been considering some of the 'newcomers on the block' To date I have not found any which has a better complete package then the Noldens
When we find a LED 7" headlight that we consider the same or better then the Noldens we will try them out on our vehicles. Brendan |
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20th Jan 2015 8:23pm |
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| tookaphotoof Member Since: 18 Mar 2013 Location: dordrecht Posts: 1279 
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Funny, I just bought those bulbs last week. Just don't have the Wipac Chystals yet. Wanted to experiment without spending too much.  |
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20th Jan 2015 8:49pm |
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| VeeTee Member Since: 06 Mar 2011 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1512
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^ Well then you really should upgrade to the Crystals, they are a big difference. And - of course - also upgrade to the "zweedse lichtversterker" or Landreiziger relay loom. Cheers, Vincent
1959 Polynorm 1/4 Ton Trailer, Olive Drab Green (sold) 1970 M416 Military Trailer (Camping Trailer Conversion), Epsom Green (sold) 1975 Series III 88 V6, Light Green (sadly sold) 1996 Defender 110 CSW 300 Tdi, Epsom Green (sold) 2000 Freelander 1 TD4 3-drs, Silver (sold) 2006 Freelander 1 TD4 5-drs Facelift Automatic, Tonga Green (sold) MySite |
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20th Jan 2015 8:56pm |
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| tookaphotoof Member Since: 18 Mar 2013 Location: dordrecht Posts: 1279
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Thanks for the tip. I'll try not to forget next time when I pay them a visit.
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20th Jan 2015 9:50pm |
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| Jim_Bean Member Since: 10 May 2011 Location: Staffordshire / Shropshire border Posts: 613 
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[quote="leeds"]
Thanks for all the information Brendan 
Much appreciated. |
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21st Jan 2015 9:26am |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582
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If you have any questions Jim, just ask away will do my best to answer.
Technology in headlights is changing just like in other areas. Some car makers are beginning to use lasers in their headlights. Laser not to be confused with Lazer lamps who make LED light units in the UK. They are using special technology to change wavelength and to alter the beam pattern as laser are normally very restricted wavelength and restricted beam pattern. Please note whereas their are dangers in looking directly at a laser beam, in the case of laser headlights the actual laser part is within the headlight unit and the actual light output from the laser headlights will not effect the health of any oncoming car drivers. So oncoming vehicles will not be vapourised by being caught in the main beam of a laser headlight car. I do not think laser technology is likely to get into 7" round headlights in the near future. Brendan |
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21st Jan 2015 11:52am |
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| Jim_Bean Member Since: 10 May 2011 Location: Staffordshire / Shropshire border Posts: 613
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Thanks Brendan.
What is the difference between the 'Black' and 'Dark Chrome'? Are there any photos anywhere to see them 'in-situ'? Is the forum price still Ģ525? |
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21st Jan 2015 12:20pm |
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| consumerize Member Since: 27 May 2014 Location: Berkshire Posts: 121 
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I fitted these very Nolden lights recently. Below are a few picture examples of the light output. Pitch dark environment, using Iphone for pictures, so not best quality.
This is dipped beam, from drivers seat. (need to wash window)  Click image to enlarge here is dipped beam from stood next to car. shows the light pattern better. Many people have said about the dark patches left infant of the car, but you can't see this from drivers seat. they do have a very defined edge where the light stops, no gentle fade out at the edges. Click image to enlarge Here is Full beam Click image to enlarge Good range and very bright. I don't have pre-LED shots, but it was like the light of a single birthday candle illumination with the original lights. I would class as being dangerously dim. |
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21st Jan 2015 12:23pm |
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| Jim_Bean Member Since: 10 May 2011 Location: Staffordshire / Shropshire border Posts: 613
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Thanks consumerize
Do you have any photos of how they look on the vehicle? I'm trying to decide if i like the look of them when looking at the vehicle - i'm definitely sold on the output but unsure if they look OK on the Defender. It seems there are 3 versions, clear, dark chrome and black. I've never seen the black version and I think the new limited edition Land Rover Defenders use the 'clear' version. What do yours look like? |
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21st Jan 2015 12:29pm |
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| a13x Member Since: 25 Sep 2011 Location: Burton on Trent Posts: 553
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The full beam shot is interesting as it appears to show no light at all to the ground directly ifront of the car anymore. Is that the case? And the same with the JW Speaker?
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21st Jan 2015 12:31pm |
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| Windowlicker Member Since: 24 Aug 2014 Location: East yorks Posts: 290 
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Jim , here are some pics of then fitted to mine.
Very pleased with them, service from Brendan excellent also
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic31962-75.html . "Procrastination is the thief of time" |
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21st Jan 2015 12:37pm |
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