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| jimbob7 Member Since: 06 Jul 2013 Location: uk Posts: 2055  |
imo,if there is no air in the system (just changing fluid) I don't see a problem just using a vacuum/pressure bleeder Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
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15th Jan 2015 10:53pm |
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| Lou Sparts Member Since: 15 Apr 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 1501  
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I've always bled my brakes the old fashioned way ( abs Td5) with a pipe and receptacle at the calliper and pumped through with the pedal, I always start with the brake furthest from the master cylinder and and then the next furthest etc. Never had a problem with this method. 2005 Td5 90 XS
Steve |
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15th Jan 2015 11:04pm |
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| martinfiattech Member Since: 13 Nov 2013 Location: leicester Posts: 422 
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You`ll be fine using a vacuum bleeder, just don`t forget to drain / suck out the fluid from the reservoir and add fresh before bleeding. It`s amazing how many people don`t do this. As long as you leave a little in their so no air gets in.
Also start from the furthest from the master cylinder. Check for a good firm pedal before driving off As for using the abs pump to do the work, it`s more for bleeding the valve body it`s self. You can use the same kit for changing the clutch fluid, as it`s the same stuff. Be warned it drains the reservoir QUICK.... Excuse the spelling I`am better with spanners and wires. |
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15th Jan 2015 11:11pm |
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| MR_JAMES Member Since: 10 Oct 2013 Location: ESSEX Posts: 252 
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ah ha!! no problems then i will give it a go. Thanks for info.
clutch reservoir looks the same as my old 109... apart from the switch on top. Will do that to as i got a good deal on a 5 litre container of brake fluid with my halfords trade card. 1953 80" 1987 mini city e 2011 90" |
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15th Jan 2015 11:49pm |
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| MR_JAMES Member Since: 10 Oct 2013 Location: ESSEX Posts: 252
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So i tried to do it yesterday. No such luck; theres to much resistance while sucking the fluid down the line that you pull air past the threads of the nipple. I tried sucking it though with my mouth (i know its not healthy) and could feel resistance.
I got around it by running the engine and pumping fluid through the traditional way. worked perfectly. 1953 80" 1987 mini city e 2011 90" |
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24th Apr 2015 12:25pm |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558
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When you open the nipple the fluid should just drip out there should be no rresistance
Better pressure bleeding to vac bleeding anyway |
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24th Apr 2015 12:43pm |
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| Nevillerover Member Since: 14 Feb 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 224 
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I used exactly the pump you show and it worked fine but took a long time causing my selfish neighbour to come and complain about the compressor running. I'd be very interested to hear how you use the abs to do it.
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24th Apr 2015 7:15pm |
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| Anderzander Member Since: 08 Feb 2011 Location: Lancashire Posts: 1000
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I could do with a vacuum pump - is that one you'd recommend ?
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24th Apr 2015 9:47pm |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558
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I have both vac and pressure bleeders , but always use the pressure bleeder as does a better job
But pressure bleeders are more expensive |
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24th Apr 2015 10:22pm |
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| Anderzander Member Since: 08 Feb 2011 Location: Lancashire Posts: 1000
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Could you recommend one (a pressure bleeder that is) ?
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25th Apr 2015 7:00am |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558
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something like this
eBay item number: eBay Item No. 311344688722 pressure bleeder and the cap supplied fits the defender 
and think that's a good price I paid a lot more for mine  Last edited by munch90 on 25th Apr 2015 10:50am. Edited 1 time in total |
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25th Apr 2015 10:17am |
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| MR_JAMES Member Since: 10 Oct 2013 Location: ESSEX Posts: 252
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personally i've not had that much luck with it. It depends on a number of factors -
1. you need the right air pressure. i.e. not to high! 2. You need a good seal between the nipple threads and cylinder. As you know on the defender 90 something was holding the fluid back,, so it was just drawing a little fluid through and lots of air bubbles around the nipple threads. Same thing with my dads vw touareg. something holding the fluid back.. same as above. on the 80 inch it worked quite well but i had to press the nipple in while sucking to stop air bubbles and turn the psi down so reduce suction. on the cheapo skoda fabia with no abs it worked like a dream. and on my austin rover mini it worked ok. I used a gunsons easy pressure bleed thing once on the 80inch.. looked good but cap blew off master cylinder and sprayed everything with fluid.. it went in my eyes. Not keen on those anymore. 1953 80" 1987 mini city e 2011 90" |
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25th Apr 2015 10:46am |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558
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also with vac one you need a compressor to run it
the vac ones can use a lot of air and can be to much load for a home/hobby compressor pressure ones don't need a compressor |
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25th Apr 2015 11:00am |
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| Anderzander Member Since: 08 Feb 2011 Location: Lancashire Posts: 1000
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I have a 14cfm compressor - I would expect that to be enough ?
My concern with the pressure ones is them spraying fluid everywhere - something I expect couldn't happen on the vacuum type ? |
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25th Apr 2015 11:44am |
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