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Cat81



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Split charger and power inverter
Hi,

I am looking at installing a double battery system + split charger + power inverter. I see there are a lot of posts on this topic, and hopefully will not repeat the existing (e.g., which between ACR / VSR; Blue Sea vs IBS; etc). My plan is to have a starting battery and run anything else on the Aux (additional lights; fridge when needed; power inverter for kettle, computer, chargers, etc).

A camping van specialist has actually recommended I go for a different system (obviously, a pricy one Rolling Eyes ) - and use either a Mastervolt Mass Combi or a Victron unit to serve my needs. That would be combined to my existing battery + additional gel unit (something like GBP 900 in itself ...).

Has anyone looked at a similar set-up in a Defender? It looks like a complete overkill to me (especially since I hear so many good things about simpler systems) but I'd like to get another opinion before dismissing it ...

thanks!
Marc
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Tiger



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Sounds like a serious set up. Shocked

Don't want to come over all preachy but do you really need such a set up?

Decent Fridge is money well invested, we use our Engel for all manner of stuff and it works well for us on a basic leisure battery (£70 job) will run for about 3-4 days on this without running the car.

I use a heavy duty relay and have a homemade split charge.

We have a cheapo Halfords (Ring Can) that is a basic inverted but is used for charging laptops etc.

Kettles require power! So we boil our water on a stove (Jetboil)

So I guess the split charge becomes less complex if you look at the things you're running.
Post #366366 22nd Oct 2014 8:18am
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K9F



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As you so justifiably stated there are a myriad of threads on here with very good feedback and installation instructions with pictures on several renowned and well-tested makes.
Why are so even considering splurging more cash than necessary on an 'overkill' system (your opinion, not mine) on a system recommended by one when there is a lot of information readily available already on numerous others?

£900 on a gel unit alone? Shocked ......Was he wearing a mask and carrying a musket or big floppy shoes and a red nose?

Rolling with laughter If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #366367 22nd Oct 2014 8:19am
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Cat81



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Quote:
Was he wearing a mask and carrying a musket or big floppy shoes and a red nose?


Unfortunately not, that may have made things clearer to me Very Happy

Let no one start thinking they can sell me their used battery for that sort of price though ... Laughing
Post #366374 22nd Oct 2014 8:43am
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captain slow



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Has anyone used the CTEK D250S Dual Battery Charger? It seems like an elegant solution to me, but I'm not an electrical expert in by any stretch of the imagination! 2.2 Tdci 110 XS CSW Corris Grey
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Post #366395 22nd Oct 2014 10:14am
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K9F



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Not a mention of that particular one but several mentioned here of the same brand.....

If I recall correctly our sister Disco site had some form of group buy/discount offered a while ago on CTEKs and an adaptor was available through Martin to charge through your tow socket?

Thumbs Up If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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captain slow



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Cheers, I'm also on the D3 site - I'll do a search there. Many thanks Thumbs Up 2.2 Tdci 110 XS CSW Corris Grey
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I have my dual battery system running for over 5 years now, consisting of a Cyrix VSR (€50) and a Optima Yellowtop leisure battery (€180). Add some cable, connectors and other small hardware. I am very happy with this setup, and it is not very expensive.
I run a Waeco 40l compressor fridge on the Yellowtop, as wel as additional lights and phone chargers and the like. I also have a solar panel permanent on the roofrack for topping up the leisure battery while camping. Cheers, Vincent
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munch90



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post mentions kettle some kettles are 3kw that's a bl@@dy big inverter your need!
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VeeTee



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^^^ Indeed, it is best to avoid using an inverter: most laptops and mobile chargers work on 12V (or use a dc-dc converter).
And a fireplace is much more fun than an electric kettle Whistle


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 Cheers, Vincent
1959 Polynorm 1/4 Ton Trailer, Olive Drab Green (sold)
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1975 Series III 88 V6, Light Green (sadly sold)
1996 Defender 110 CSW 300 Tdi, Epsom Green (sold)
2000 Freelander 1 TD4 3-drs, Silver (sold)
2006 Freelander 1 TD4 5-drs Facelift Automatic, Tonga Green (sold)

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can't beat a proper whistling kettle , electric aint camping ! Rolling with laughter
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Glamping Rolling with laughter

Thumbs Up Cheers, Vincent
1959 Polynorm 1/4 Ton Trailer, Olive Drab Green (sold)
1970 M416 Military Trailer (Camping Trailer Conversion), Epsom Green (sold)
1975 Series III 88 V6, Light Green (sadly sold)
1996 Defender 110 CSW 300 Tdi, Epsom Green (sold)
2000 Freelander 1 TD4 3-drs, Silver (sold)
2006 Freelander 1 TD4 5-drs Facelift Automatic, Tonga Green (sold)

MySite
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